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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes Bannon want the US to end up pure white or just change the trajectory?
What is his ultimate goal? He has talked about his fear of minorities overtaking whites in the US and Muslims outnumbering Christians in Europe in 50 years or so (which is a false claim by the way). So is he just trying to shake things up a bit and reduce immigration etc. or is he trying to get a 3rd World War going with Muslims and other races so they can use Nuclear War to wipe them off the face of the earth and get another Holocaust going here in the US?
With all this talk of war with everyone we need to really be worried here. He says he wants chaos and we should take him seriously. An interesting thing about Bannon is he doesn't take care of himself or his appearance which probably means he may not value himself. People who don't like themselves are the ones who do school shootings. Psychology studies are pretty clear that self hate often leads to violence.
Solly Mack
(90,794 posts)straight males.
Seen but not heard. Heads down, walking behind, or crossing the street to give white males preeminence.
Silent, never complaining about their treatment.
Blending in to the point they disappear. So they can be easily overlooked.
He wants strong measures against those who will not bend to his way of thinking.
Hekate
(90,913 posts)LIKE HELL
Solly Mack
(90,794 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Quixote1818
(29,000 posts)pat_k
(9,313 posts)... "real America" is "pure White."
All the rest of "those people" aren't reeaallly Americans.
If he has any rational "action plan" (and I don't think he does, he just wants to magically "get back" an America that never existed, and would really suck if it did)... anyway, if he has an action plan, it's to do whatever he can think of to elevate his lilly white "real" Americans (who, in his fantasy, all agree with him, even if only "secretly" , marginalize everybody else, and stop any new "not-Americans" from entering.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,335 posts)Who really knows what his pickled brain is thinking.
Hekate
(90,913 posts)...to his twisted crap.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Yes. I WENT THERE.
Runningdawg
(4,527 posts)But you forgot those men MUST be Christian!
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)about his appearance and his self-esteem. It seems the only way he can feel good about himself is to tear down others. And you hit the nail on the head with the fear factor. Fear leads one to do crazy shit.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)or reverse the growth of minorities in the US by strictly controlling immigration.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Bannon is a hardline ideologue, he doesn't care about the money. He is dangerously smart, got trump elected.
He will stop at nothing to change the course of history in order to preserve majority white country with whites being most powerful. This is his life's purpose and he is ok to die for it if needed. He will have no issue pressing trump to nuke iran or syria.
He is the architest of muslim registry. The colossal rise of white nationalist alt-right movement which attracts especially young people will make life of minorities much less comfortable in the US. While KKK mosty focuses on blacks; the alt-right does not tolerare any non-whites including hispanics, asians, arabs, blacks and also jews. The movement is inherently anti-semitic. Bannon is the brain, the god of the alt-right movement which in itself based on Dugin's Neo-Eurosian movement. You have to question whether Breitbart got any money from Russia?
New legal immigration restrictions on non-white applicants is no dobt coming soon.
Deporting all unauthorized immigrants from the US includig those under DACA is essential to alt-right and Bannon. He can't wait for Sessions to be confirmed so they can procees with mass deportations across the country.
Bannon does not care about economy, he is not pro-growth. He cares about 'white american' culture and Judeo-Christian traditions, he does not tolerate diversity of any kind. He doesn't care about democracy or constitution, I think autoritarian regime is perfect for him.
Quixote1818
(29,000 posts)You could probably work for the CIA profiling people. I think perhaps our best way to fight Bannon is to keep suggesting Bannon is the one in charge and he controls Trump. Trump is mentally small and this will get under his skin and eventually he may start to distrust Bannon and see him as manipulative. Trump is not afraid to be forceful and could turn on Bannon without a second thought. Trump without Bannon will just a fucking meat head adrift in a brutal wilderness. Total disaster with or without him.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)The thing about Bannon is that he is not corrupt, not in it for the money. He is real passionate about his life's purpose. Trump owes him for presidency. Can't imagine trump turning on Bannon, he can't go through the day w/o bannon's directions.
Can you imagine Bannon once thanked those who prticipate in the comments section of Breitbart because that's how they came up with all their ideas!
Honestly, I wake every morning thinking it was just a weird dream...
brush
(53,925 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)
Heehee!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Is it economic or racial? Is it part of Putin's grand scheme to destabilize the western democracies with the added bonus of white power? One thing I'm sure of, the original question does not begin to cover the broad strategy. It is multi-faceted, and white power is most likely just a means to an end.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Bannon and Putin have different goals, it just so happens, it's a win/win situation for both. Attempts to create racial tensions in the US by Russia goes back to Soviet Union/ KGB times and is well documented. The goal is always to destabilize the country, to diminish its superpower and present it as moral embarassement, a country that should never interfere into other countries affairs because it is morally currupt. Putin does not care Bout white power, he just exploited this weakness, Dugin to be exact - he is the one identifying what needs to be done. He has nose for hate.
Now, Bannon coincidentally wants exactly that. He does not want to be superpower, does not want to send troops outside the US. His vision of utopia is completey closed borders, wall around the US, self-sufficient society - no trade - no imports/exports, judeo-christian dystopian like country with supermajority. white population. Bannon hates stock market and wall street. Works great for Putin!
Quixote1818
(29,000 posts)if he hates Wall Street? What are you anticipating occurring down the line?
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)I doubt bannon cares about those people, the most important that they are loyal to trump. None of them are qualified, their goal is to dismantle the departments they are selected to head.
Quixote1818
(29,000 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)it is both economic and racial...a white supremacist like president bannon HATES brown people and is a white racist and sees all BROWN people as a lower form of life as well as Jews, regardless of slumloard Kushner being in that mess of a mix running this country now. He will try to kill, maim and incarcerate many more BROWN people than ever before in this countries ongoing racist white supremacist war. POC, darker than white immigrants not willing to be subservient to the white race will be enemies to someone like president bannon. Economics...it's always been about economics with republiKKKans....our pockets to theirs by graft, grift, outright robbery by corporations and banks(billions in fees). AmeriKKKa has hit the ICEberg and is just waiting to sink....
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)We don't know what the end is. We can speculate. The only sure thing is that the ultimate end is not premised solely on the exclusion of brown people. I'm saying that the hatred of other races is symptomatic of some other cause. Whether it's simple isolationism or something more radical is open to debate. Bannon is not as easy to read to someone like Spencer, and not as simple minded either.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)is bannon is one of the top brains of that crew in the WH now....trump is a sock puppet parroting what bannon thinks and writes and president bannon as easy to read as the children's book, Dick and Jane. Exclusion of all not white male is not premised on anything but continuing actions and edicts by president bannon, I feel. Brown people exclusion and segregation(again) is one of his many racist, xenophobic, eurocentric aims, period. Oh he has many more actions against humanity planned even for those clowns who were stupid and deluded enough to vote for his sock puppet and who will end up suffering along with all the decent people residing on this planet.
No parsing and intellectualizing the evil of this crew. The sure thing, to me, is that the future does not bode well for all who are not white, male, KKKristian and their supporters and even some useful brown people still support his sock puppet, look at the FCC chairman, Amorosa, Carson et al. Bannon has said what he intends...if you've ever dealt into his past. He's an anti-semite, racist, homophobic, xenophobic EVIL human being...what's so hard to believe about those facts of this evil man? Believe what you must..I feel the hate growing and growing and growing.....but I would because while the end game of this evil administration is still subject to your speculation........ knowing the underbelly, now exposed, of this country and it's cultural/racial history, which I have studied for decades, the blood and the pain perpetrated by the still dominant race of this country and who are in full power and control now is all the proof I need to realize who president bannon's administration represents and it ain't brown people, immigrants, intellectuals, free thinking artists, teachers, doctors, jewish people for the most part, gays, independent women and all Native Americans, who will be riding together in those boxcars, figuratively speaking at this present time, to a certain fate. He's our Pol Pot. It's better to think proactively rather than reactively.....growing up black in this society when even road trips had to be planned carefully, proactive thinking is in MY DNA and I will be planning for the worse as many I know are. There is no hope for better society or world with these demons running this country ......
bhikkhu
(10,725 posts)I don't think he cares what color the bottom dogs are, or doubts what color the top dogs will be.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)with all AA(even those supporting the boy-potus who would be fuhrer)put back 50-60 years "in their place" as subservient and a lower form of human than all white people. Won't be able to wipe all us AA and other POC out....but they damn sure are going to try over the next 4 years, no fucking doubt. Looks like Amtrak is going to be real busy along with all the other railroads in this country. Be good for business though, huh???? AmeriKKKa is just waiting to sink, already hit the ICEberg...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Iggo
(47,579 posts)And that is: The white race rules supreme with all other races either subservient to the white race or eradicated.
haele
(12,686 posts)then rights, regulations, and laws need only apply to them. So most of the laws and regulations that are currently enforced can go away.
And frankly, it's commonly understood that most people who experience privilege won't complain too much about other's lack of privilege if it might seem they would experience "more competition" for attention to their rights and privileges under the law.
Bannon, like the other Brietbarters, alt-righties, and Dominionists don't want to share. In their world, Well-off White Male is the default state for being an American Citizen (Founding Fathers, and all that); add to that, the idea that respect and privilege for Americans is zero-sum; society must be hierarchal and the American Citizen needs to be on top to lead.
These authoritarian types feel they've the right to be in charge and able to kick down simply by being born well-off, white and male. Therefore in their understanding, anyone who does not have the advantage of being of a default citizen class or fights to gain the same social respect, rights and privileges as the American Citizen is a vicious attack against the respect, rights, and privileges of being an American Citizen.
To those who need to be at the top, any attack on the status quo is an attack on them.
Haele
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)not one that I would want to look up to as a supreme white being representing my race. Lots of beautiful Muslim and other people of color. Bannon looks like a drunk who just woke up from sleeping on the street. The Trumper is not much better, represents a culture of whites who never paid attention in school. Vain and idiotic.
moda253
(615 posts)It would not surprise me if liberals in general are going to become a target at some point. We are all on record as having anti-trump views. Scary times people.
brush
(53,925 posts)enemies data base?