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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:29 PM Feb 2017

Ginsburg wants to change the Electoral College




Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says she wants to change the Electoral College.

Asked at Stanford University on Monday night about what she would like to change, Ginsburg exclaimed, "the Electoral College!" She also decried partisanship and lamented the death penalty during her appearance at Stanford, according to the Mercury News.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ginsburg-wants-to-change-the-electoral-college/article/2614110#.WJn0lEaeU3g.facebook

Hear, hear!!!!
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ProfessorGAC

(65,298 posts)
4. Or Just Force It To Be Proportional
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:19 PM
Feb 2017

Then there are no more winner take all states. That's even more undemocratic than the electors themselves.

DarleenMB

(408 posts)
16. Why is that "undemocratic?"
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:30 PM
Feb 2017

The election of the President of the United States is not a state-by-state referendum. It is a vote by ALL THE CITIZENS. So why on earth do people think that it should be "proportional?" Honestly, who cares how many people in California voted for someone versus how many people in Wyoming voted for someone else in a NATIONAL election? that's nonsense.

ProfessorGAC

(65,298 posts)
17. Because Today, You Win 50.1% and Get All The Votes
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 06:12 PM
Feb 2017

How Is that democratic? 49.9% of voters don't get represented at all?

I don't think you understand what i'm saying. CA gets way more electors than WY and they should. There 40 times the people. But, a fairly big state like Ohio goes for "It" by a half percent over HRC and he gets 100% of the votes. It's why he won!!!

What the heck are you talking about with regard to proportionality not being more democratic than what they do now?

Then, the EC would actually be a buffer vs. a madman, because it would only take a few electors in each state to say, "no i can't in good conscience let this person be POTUS." In this last election, the number who would have to flip against HRC was a pretty big number so would have taken way too many "defectors". In fact, there would have to be no defectors from "it" because he would have lost a proportional EC vote.

Qutzupalotl

(14,340 posts)
19. Actually, it is state-by-state.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 06:38 PM
Feb 2017

Each state runs their own elections. Not just for state and local offices, but federal as well. Changing that would require a constitutional amendment.

Skittles

(153,243 posts)
5. the Electoral College once had a purpose
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:28 PM
Feb 2017

now it is causing the very kind of damage it was meant to avoid

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. It never had a purpose, it and the allocating of Senators
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:18 PM
Feb 2017

Was intended to give slave states more power in government than their populations warranted.

bucolic_frolic

(43,409 posts)
6. Shame she can't write executive orders
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:40 PM
Feb 2017

Every form of social organization in every culture turns to its
wisest elders for guidance and direction

And we are led by the dumbest of all

randr

(12,418 posts)
7. The Republic are in a position to take control of enough States at which point
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 03:42 PM
Feb 2017

they will be able to convene for a Continental Congress and re-draft the Constitution to their liking.
Evil is as evil does.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
12. This election the electoral college did exactly what it wasn't suppose to do
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:10 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.historycentral.com/elections/Electoralcollgewhy.html


"Hamilton and the other founders believed that the electors would be able to insure that only a qualified person becomes President. They believed that with the Electoral College no one would be able to manipulate the citizenry. It would act as check on an electorate that might be duped.The founders also believed that the Electoral College had the advantage of being a group that met only once and thus could not be manipulated over time by foreign governments or others."
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