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Did anyone else watch Rachel (Original Post) triron Feb 2017 OP
Flynn and treason. GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2017 #1
That was frightening and hopeful at the same time FightingIrish Feb 2017 #2
I listen to her every night via her audio podcast. longship Feb 2017 #3
Hate that this came out on Friday. rogue emissary Feb 2017 #4
I was reading between those lines MFM008 Feb 2017 #5
I think it's traitors triron Feb 2017 #7
all I could think of during the dam analogy was grantcart Feb 2017 #6
Indict Flynn. He rolls on 45. Game over CanonRay Feb 2017 #8
I'm betting Pence in on it too. triron Feb 2017 #13
Pence is too stupid to be trusted CanonRay Feb 2017 #15
With you on that. NT pablo_marmol Feb 2017 #42
She came out and said it Connie_Corleone Feb 2017 #9
Yeah. And multiple sources are leaking. Ilsa Feb 2017 #10
The big revelation here Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2017 #11
Along with other Trumpkins I'm betting. Remember Alfa bank? triron Feb 2017 #14
Went right to Russia when he got booted. That's what I've read anyway. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #28
No. Wrestling is on Mondays. AngryAmish Feb 2017 #12
kick for visibility triron Feb 2017 #16
What did they know and when did they know it? Not even Nixon committed treason. Hekate Feb 2017 #17
knr triron Feb 2017 #19
Oh yes he did. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2017 #21
Ah, there you have it. smh Hekate Feb 2017 #23
I think there is a tape of LBJ calling Senator Everett Dirksen (R) where he calls it treason. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2017 #25
Heard it on Thom 90-percent Feb 2017 #41
And Dirksen agreed. Glamrock Feb 2017 #43
Somebody tweeted if flynn still had a job Cha Feb 2017 #18
I hope this blossoms into a conspiracy Greybnk48 Feb 2017 #20
I also feel very strongly this way. triron Feb 2017 #24
Exactly. Here in Wisconsin, they allowed a recount Greybnk48 Feb 2017 #39
Lt. Gen. Flynn: They got the goods on his traitorous ass. oasis Feb 2017 #22
Whatcha wanna bet that the tapes of those phone calls contain a lot of the Grammy23 Feb 2017 #26
That and the dossier. They (the FBI) said they have confirmed parts of it are true notdarkyet Feb 2017 #29
I think they're sharp enough to drop the net before the Trump cabal oasis Feb 2017 #31
no, I still haven't gotten over her swooning over Conway. nt elmac Feb 2017 #27
I really like Rachel but that bugged me a great deal. triron Feb 2017 #30
Maybe she was trying to smooth the way for future interviews? Grammy23 Feb 2017 #32
Did Flynn and others in Rump administration commit Espionage and treason? trueblue2007 Feb 2017 #33
Would be easier to convict on other charges unc70 Feb 2017 #35
Rachel said the word. triron Feb 2017 #36
Assume not just telephone calls are recorded unc70 Feb 2017 #34
Good question! I recall Rachel discussing that as well this week. triron Feb 2017 #37
Sounds to me like the dam is breaking... look out below! BigBearJohn Feb 2017 #38
VIDEO -- All I can say is WOWWWW BigBearJohn Feb 2017 #40
kick triron Feb 2017 #44

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. I listen to her every night via her audio podcast.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

It's the whole program, but no video. Posted some time late, after she finishes. Only 10MB download, which is nice when ones downloads are limited.

Point your podcast aggregator towards "Rachel Maddow" and subscribe to the audio version.

R&

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
4. Hate that this came out on Friday.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:19 PM
Feb 2017

The stories were written mid week, but only Rachel had the guts to get to the heart of the reports.

Don't miss AM Joy cause I think she will continue reporting on Flynn's lies and the lies of Donny admin.

CanonRay

(14,123 posts)
8. Indict Flynn. He rolls on 45. Game over
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:29 PM
Feb 2017

Excert then we have a religious fanatic who is also dumber than dirt as President

Connie_Corleone

(9,330 posts)
9. She came out and said it
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:31 PM
Feb 2017

I was like 'You go, girl!' I need to hear more people on TV and print saying it too.

Ilsa

(61,709 posts)
10. Yeah. And multiple sources are leaking.
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:33 PM
Feb 2017

And now a Democratic senator has called for an fbi briefing.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,759 posts)
11. The big revelation here
Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:34 PM
Feb 2017

Is that Flynn was in touch with the Russians before the election on a regular basis

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
21. Oh yes he did.
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:28 AM
Feb 2017

He was messing with the Vietnam peace talks during the 1968 election. LBJ was livid and should have called him out on it publicly, but he only shared the info with certain members of the Senate.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
25. I think there is a tape of LBJ calling Senator Everett Dirksen (R) where he calls it treason.
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:42 AM
Feb 2017

You might find it somewhere, maybe YouTube.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
41. Heard it on Thom
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:58 AM
Feb 2017

LBJ - Now Everett, you know this is treason.
Dirkson - Yes......I know......

About Nixon negotiating directly with the enemy

Thom also points out that the last legitimately elected Republican President was Eisenhower.

He's played the clip a lot.

-90% Jimmy

Greybnk48

(10,178 posts)
20. I hope this blossoms into a conspiracy
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:23 AM
Feb 2017

that includes several key people colluding with the Russians during the campaign.

I feel this is actually what happened, albeit based on very little evidence on my part, just a hunch. Toward the end Trump seemed to know he was going to win, even though the odds in a fair match were stacked against him.

triron

(22,028 posts)
24. I also feel very strongly this way.
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:37 AM
Feb 2017

There is quite a bit of 'evidence' actually.
!) Divergence from pre-election polling predictions.
2) incongruity with betting (and some other institutional) predictions
3) Statements made by Giuliani just before the election
4) Evidence of hacking already emerging before the election
5) Extremely improbable deviation from exit polling predictions
5b) Early vote trends heavily favoring Clinton in important swing states
6) DU being hacked and going down election day
7) Trump's incongruous pre-election confidence and campaign behavior
8) Scientists and computer experts concerns over vote count results in some states


caveat: Probably missed some things

Greybnk48

(10,178 posts)
39. Exactly. Here in Wisconsin, they allowed a recount
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:34 AM
Feb 2017

but in the counties with hinky numbers, the clerks refused to allow hand counts. Machine counts only, when we were looking for machine vote flipping. None of the tabulating machines were examined either. Everyone just shut up and moved on. We're getting used to rigged elections of one stripe or another here in Wisconsin.

Man I want to see these people go down hard. Especially in light of the ICE raids we're now hearing about.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
26. Whatcha wanna bet that the tapes of those phone calls contain a lot of the
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:48 AM
Feb 2017

Evidence to nail all of their asses. Starting at the top. They know the contact took place throughout the campaign---well before Election Day 2016. Up to that point things looked good for Hillary and even tRump began to hint at a loss for himself. Then things changed. All of it fell apart on election night. And they told us that more than a dozen polls were wrong. I called BS that night but they stuck to that story---even though it does not make sense that all those professional pollsters would be wrong.

Now we are learning more details about a Russian involvement in our election. At first it was hacking. Now there are strong hints that it went far beyond hacking. Flynn is in it up to his eyeballs. But who else? If the news media stay on this and don't let it fade away or get swept under a rug, there is potential for a constitutional crisis like we've never see . What if most of the people around tRump are involved? What about his cabinet? His staff? tRump himself?

Stay tuned and pop some corn.....our nation may be saved if the right people step up and do the right thing. I am not counting on the Republicans to be among them, but you never know. If the heat gets hot enough, who knows who will start to crack??

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
29. That and the dossier. They (the FBI) said they have confirmed parts of it are true
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:54 AM
Feb 2017

With other sources.

oasis

(49,432 posts)
31. I think they're sharp enough to drop the net before the Trump cabal
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 12:58 AM
Feb 2017

gets their wagons completely circled.

Then, let the shitstorm begin.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
32. Maybe she was trying to smooth the way for future interviews?
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:04 AM
Feb 2017

Or even lay the ground work for others in the administration to be on her show? I did think she was spreading things on a bit thick.

trueblue2007

(17,243 posts)
33. Did Flynn and others in Rump administration commit Espionage and treason?
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:12 AM
Feb 2017

??????

Espionage Act of 1917 - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917
The Espionage Act of 1917 is a United States federal law passed on June 15, 1917, shortly after the U.S. entry into World War I. It has been amended numerous times over the years. It was originally found in Title 50 of the U.S. Code (War) but is now found under Title 18, Crime.
Effective‎: ‎June 15, 1917
Enacted by‎: ‎the 65th United States Congress
Statutes at Large‎: ‎40 Stat. 217

unc70

(6,122 posts)
35. Would be easier to convict on other charges
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:22 AM
Feb 2017

That is what the congressman told Rachel tonight.

Espionage and treason require high levels of proof.

unc70

(6,122 posts)
34. Assume not just telephone calls are recorded
Sat Feb 11, 2017, 01:19 AM
Feb 2017

We know that the telephone calls have been recorded. We should assume that any other conversations have been recorded as well. We might be reluctant to reveal just how much and how this was done, but there are few secrets at this level, fewer when dealing with people like this.

Wonder how the spies arrested and killed in Russia fit into this puzzle?

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