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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:37 AM Aug 2015

Liberty Council Wants Sanctuary Cities Where Gay Marriage Can’t 'Hurt Them'

Source: Wonkette & Right Wing Watch Aug 04 10:45 2015

Mat Staver, a lawyer with the rightwing Liberty Counsel, encouraged local governments to “stand up and resist” the Supreme Court’s decisions on abortions and marriage equality.

We have an independent duty to also interpret the same Constitution that they do, and there’s nothing in there about a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, so in our state, I think what they ought to do is still say marriage is between a man and a woman, and we’re not going to recognize anything else. “You know what, if some cities can create sanctuary cities for illegal aliens, why can’t a city or a state create a sanctuary city or state to protect the preborn?” Host Jim Schneider added, “And to protect marriage.” And wouldn’t you know it, Staver agreed: “And to protect marriage, absolutely.”

Staver then gave the example of one of his Kim Davis, a clerk in Rowan County, Kentucky, who is being forced against her will to do her job, which is issuing marriage licenses. She needs a sanctuary city to live in where she won’t have to do her job at all, because when a clerk issues a license for anything, it puts that clerk’s stamp of moral approval on that thing:

“They provide a license to do something. They provide a license that gives you the legal authority to drive a car. They provide a license that gives you a legal authority to operate a business. So they’re providing a license that gives you a legal authority to do what? To engage in a sinful activity with a sinful relationship, a same-sex so-called marriage.”




Read more: http://wonkette.com/592504/wingnuts-want-very-own-sanctuary-cities-where-gay-abortions-cant-hurt-them

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Liberty Council Wants Sanctuary Cities Where Gay Marriage Can’t 'Hurt Them' (Original Post) big_dog Aug 2015 OP
I have a suggestion for Staver that will save her from having to issue rpannier Aug 2015 #1
call them waahvilles roguevalley Aug 2015 #23
So, is he proposing to ban divorce in those "safe" cities? Jamastiene Aug 2015 #2
that was my question. what if the local county clerk was a practicing hard line Opus Dei catholic? big_dog Aug 2015 #4
Imagine the first time a gay kid is born.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #3
The kid will be driven to suicide Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #13
they literally want sanctuary from the constitution 6chars Aug 2015 #5
this ends with National Guard being called up by the president to enforce the laws of the country big_dog Aug 2015 #6
Well, none of those things can actually harm you, christx30 Aug 2015 #7
A sanctuary city for zygotes? drm604 Aug 2015 #8
it would be a 'sancutary city' where all of the planned parenthoood clinics would be closed big_dog Aug 2015 #9
Better than that: they can have a whole country bluestateguy Aug 2015 #10
Move to Uganda. . .or North Korea DinahMoeHum Aug 2015 #17
Found one: marmar Aug 2015 #11
Zimbabwe. cya. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #12
I have to know... jmowreader Aug 2015 #14
Yes, it was - Remember Rosa Parks dem in texas Aug 2015 #19
But none dare call it,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2015 #15
And they worry about "them" over there in other countries. Jerks like this are RKP5637 Aug 2015 #16
The spirit of the groups who came to America for religious freedom and were intolerant tanyev Aug 2015 #18
We need sanctuary cities protecting us from the Christian Taliban. yellowcanine Aug 2015 #20
Presidential elections really bring out the religious freaks in this country! nt wolfie001 Aug 2015 #21
Apples and oranges ShrimpPoboy Aug 2015 #22

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
2. So, is he proposing to ban divorce in those "safe" cities?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:44 AM
Aug 2015

If not, he's full of shit. I will just skip the obligatory wait time for an answer (they never propose to ban divorce to "protect" marriage) and say he is full of shit.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. that was my question. what if the local county clerk was a practicing hard line Opus Dei catholic?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:51 AM
Aug 2015

they do not accept divorce for any reason except for annulments, i've heard cases of where catholics married 19 years have had to get annulments

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. The kid will be driven to suicide
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 05:39 AM
Aug 2015

That's the usual way to handle gay kids in reactionary circles.

Have you missed that part of the news? There's actually been an epidemic of LGBT suicides in recent years.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
6. this ends with National Guard being called up by the president to enforce the laws of the country
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:59 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:51 AM - Edit history (1)

just ilke in Little Rock of the 1960's

christx30

(6,241 posts)
7. Well, none of those things can actually harm you,
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:06 AM
Aug 2015

and you aren't effected in any way unless you decide to take part in them. So, you win, everywhere!
But it's not about harming you. It's about preventing you from harming others.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. A sanctuary city for zygotes?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:14 AM
Aug 2015

How would that work? They could flee there to protect themselves from their abortion-minded mother?

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
9. it would be a 'sancutary city' where all of the planned parenthoood clinics would be closed
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:21 AM
Aug 2015

after President Trump signs the wingnut legisation into law

jmowreader

(50,589 posts)
14. I have to know...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 06:14 AM
Aug 2015

Was it this hard when they told these same people they had to let the "coloreds" sit at the front of the bus?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
16. And they worry about "them" over there in other countries. Jerks like this are
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:00 AM
Aug 2015

social terrorists, absolutely! Individuals like this really need to go get a life. Apparently they have none, as they make it their perpetual business to invade other peoples lives with their social terrorism.

tanyev

(42,669 posts)
18. The spirit of the groups who came to America for religious freedom and were intolerant
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 08:40 AM
Aug 2015

of every other religion lives on.

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
22. Apples and oranges
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

Equal protection is a constitutional right and, effectively, a mandate on the states to treat people the same way. States can't pick and choose here.

Conversely, there is no constitutional requirement (much less any kind of civil right) that says state and local law enforcement have to proactively enforce federal statutory law like immigration. I'm sure these folks have lawyers from Liberty U to explain the distinction. If they cared to listen of course...

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