Criminal complaint filed against bishop who called for gays to be killed

[DonViejo]

Source: Pink News

A criminal complaint has been filed against a Catholic bishop who said homosexuality should be punished with death.

Vitus Huonder, the Catholic bishop of Chur, eastern Switzerland, made the controversial comments at the ‘Joy in Faith’ forum in the German city of Fulda.

At the forum, Huonder quoted a bible passage which states that homosexuals should be killed.
He read out Leviticus 20:13, which is sometimes quoted in opposition to gay rights. It reads: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

In the 50-minute address last Friday, he also took aim at gender theory, divorce, sex education and same-sex marriage. The 73-year-old added: “Both of these passages alone suffice to clarify unambiguously the church’s position on homosexuality”. He went on: “There is no diversity when it comes to marriage and family models, although a book has just come out in my bishopric called ‘Family Diversity’. Even speaking of family diversity is an attack on the Creator.”

Swiss LGBT organisation the Pink Cross has since filed a criminal complaint about the comments, after saying it was “shocked” by them.

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[RKP5637]

1. Excellent! There should be zero tolerance for these unbalanced jerks like Vitus Huonder. He, is a

fine example of why I have no use for religion, and millions feel the same.

[Archae]

2. Here in the US he wouldn't be charged with anything...

And republicans would be asking for his support.

[Ken Burch]

19. Hell, he'll probably give the keynote speech at the next GOP convention-

-on satellite feed from his prison cell-and he'll be introduced as a "persecuted Christian".

[merrily]

3. "They shall surely be put to death" does not command anyone to kill.

The Bible threatens certain people with burning in hell. That doesn't mean that God is ordering me to try to make that happen. If God wants to make it happen, she can.


Besides, Huonder is either killing people himself, in which case he should be charged with murder forthwith, or he is a hypocrite. "Let's you and him try to kill each other and see who succeeds." is not in the bible, but it seems to be what he is really saying.

He is FOS and yeah, charge him.

[SummerSnow]

4. here's a image of him with the Pope

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[forest444]

9. I wouldn't read too much into the photo.

The Pope, after all, is expected to glad-hand the curia non-stop.

On the other hand, as Archbishop of Buenos Aires in 2010 Pope Francis was a vocal opponent of Argentina's Marriage Equality Law. Perhaps Francis has evolved on the issue; perhaps his opposition at the time was nothing more than lip service to Latin America's powerful Opus Dei lobby.

What we do know is that the Catholic right today is furious with Pope Francis. Always a good sign.

[Major Nikon]

12. The pope hasn't evolved on the issue

Why is it that when the pope does something or says something bad in respect to gay rights we are supposed to not read too much into it, but when he says something that kinda sounds different we must warp it completely out of context in order for it to sound positive?

RCS policies haven't changed. It's just they have found a supposedly kinder-gentler pope in order to soften their message which is still just as shitty as it ever was.

[safeinOhio]

5. Let he who is with out

Sin cast the first stone

Words of Jesus

[cer7711]

6. The passage he quoted is irrelevant for Catholics because . . .

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(1) According to the Catholic Church's own teachings the NT's emphasis on mercy, forgiveness and redemption through Jesus Christ has rendered such bigoted, homicidal OT ravings moot and void.

(2) If you're going to cite Leviticus as the template for modern lifestyle choices and lawful punishments you can't stop at one cherry-picked verse. You must accept ALL of "God's Law" as spelled out in that book. So:

(a) no drinking of alcohol in holy places (uh-oh . . .)

(b) mixing fabrics in clothing

(c) trimming your beard

(d) working on the Sabbath

(e) tearing your clothes

(f) failing to include salt in offerings to God

and on and on and on . . .

(3) The OT also says "children who curse their parents shall be put to death". (Sorry, "God-fearing" parents--grounding, revocation of allowances or privileges, even a slap across the face--not sufficiently murderous for, err . . . "God". Clearly, a Bronze Age desert tribe's harsh "moral" code is somewhat at odds with modern-day Western notions of jurisprudence.)

In short: this hate-monger's ravings are an embarrassment to himself, his church, and the god he claims to serve. Just another example of a bigot cherry-picking the Bible for select verses to wield as cudgels against people he finds incomprehensible and/or "other" and/or happily "out" while he burns and seethes in his own self-accusatory repression.

(You want a workable definition of hell? There's one for ya: A bitter mind and broken spirit at war with itself. Not saying this man is gay, mind you. Merely raising it as a possibility. Psychology has shown us that the more rabid and unhinged the homophobic rhetoric . . . )

[Duppers]

16. Yep, yep.

[left-of-center2012]

7. OMG !

"... made the controversial comments at the ‘Joy in Faith’ forum ..."

[left-of-center2012]

8. I'm shocked (not)

"Huonder was quick to distance himself from the comments, claiming on Monday that he was misunderstood."

[cer7711]

10. A coward as well as a hate-monger, apparently.

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TO THE GATHERED CROWD OF REPORTERS: Huonder: "When I said homosexuals should be killed and cited Leviticus to back up my bigotry, I meant 'gay people should be swaddled in mewling kittens and stroked with velvet gloves as they wander through the Vatican's archives of gay art, the largest in Europe.' Should have made that clearer. Sorry."

:::pause:::

INTO THE TELEPHONE: "My sincerest apologies, Pope Francis. I . . . yes . . . next flight to Rome, Your Holiness? . . . Well sure, I . . ."

GULP!

[TubbersUK]

13. Yes, hopefully he'll be vacating the bishopric sooner rather than later n/t

[Doingto]

11. In the USA, no crime would be applicable

However, this is a country other than the USA. Does anyone know the likelihood that this will be pursued there?

[TeddyR]

14. He wouldn't be charged with any crime in the US

Because free speech, even if repulsive and back-asswards, is protected. As it should be. Hopefully nobody from the U.S. is cheering the charges against this idiot.

[Duppers]

15. Jeepers, does he mean many of the Catholic priests too?

[cer7711]

17. I fear that's exactly what he means--or rather, meant.

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Before someone got him on the phone and forced him to do that 180-degree about-face.

It was a temper tantrum in public.

[Skittles]

18. how do people listen to this garbage?

seriously

[Iggo]

21. They line up for it.

It's amazing.

[Skittles]

22. they pass the plate for it

UGH

[Iggo]

23. Naked emperors and shit.

I swear, the shit that people just won't let go of.

[YOHABLO]

20. What every happened to ''thou shall not kill"?

religion is poison