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Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:54 AM Aug 2015

Officer-Involved Shooting Reported In Ferguson

Source: Huffington Post

FERGUSON, Mo. -- On the one-year anniversary of Michael Brown's death, more gunfire was reported in Ferguson, Missouri, between the public and police.

Multiple shots rang out just after 11:15 p.m. local time, disrupting a demonstration along West Florissant Avenue, the CBC reported. The gunfire prompted dozens of police cars to converge on the area. A police helicopter also shined a spotlight onto the street to help illuminate the scene.

Police told KTVI, the local Fox affiliate, that one person was shot and taken to an area hospital.

Protesters and members of the media who had gathered in the street took cover or fled when the firing started, The Associated Press reported.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gunfire-reported-in-ferguson_55c82994e4b0f1cbf1e56e5c



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Officer-Involved Shooting Reported In Ferguson (Original Post) Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 OP
Yep again JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #1
"The man then approached the officers, who were in an unmarked police car, and opened fire." cstanleytech Aug 2015 #12
so it nothing to do with protestors. "plainclothes officers had been tracking the suspect, who they Sunlei Aug 2015 #2
They didn't. HE approached the car and started shooting Doctor_J Aug 2015 #4
You're kidding, right? That NEVER happens here! 7962 Aug 2015 #6
From the initial reports, this could have easily been a justified shooting Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #3
"One year later: Ferguson is still pumping out arrest warrants" < Lots of "justified" jtuck004 Aug 2015 #5
I don't think that justifies shooting at a police officer Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #8
People who run a plantation never think they are hurting anyone bad enough to be hurt. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #19
All I read was that they were following him because they thought he was armed. You may be jwirr Aug 2015 #16
I think it is much larger than just an individual. There are so many crimes being committed by jtuck004 Aug 2015 #20
I totally agree. I was not talking about the whole situation just why they were following him. jwirr Aug 2015 #21
"I do not think that any type of violence is going to help this cause" < That's what many said going jtuck004 Aug 2015 #24
My assumption is based on the fact that the police are not going to set around and let violence jwirr Aug 2015 #26
But unarmed young black men are being executed. This week. Like in car dealerships. And 19 jtuck004 Aug 2015 #27
Of course this country deserves what it gets. I just don't have as much faith in the future as you jwirr Aug 2015 #28
No, I agree with you. I do think it is going to get worse, and there is no need. Just our jtuck004 Aug 2015 #30
We won a lot in the civil rights movement but we forgot that we would have to keep fighting to jwirr Aug 2015 #32
We need a War on Police. nt valerief Aug 2015 #7
We need a war on dipshits that shoot at the police and other innocents seveneyes Aug 2015 #9
Police aren't innocents SwankyXomb Aug 2015 #11
Most Police are faithfully performing a necessary job seveneyes Aug 2015 #13
Not is cities like Ferguson MO jwirr Aug 2015 #17
Its still a necassary job Travis_0004 Aug 2015 #23
Trust me a war won't stop idiots from doing or supporting this kind of thing. nt cstanleytech Aug 2015 #14
A war will just increas to fear and racism against the black people. jwirr Aug 2015 #22
To the fucker who shot at the cops... SpankMe Aug 2015 #10
The gun was stolen and I believe this was near one of the burglary sites Amishman Aug 2015 #15
That to is true. jwirr Aug 2015 #18
To the fucking cops - murdering unarmed civilians isn't helping either. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #31
Here's a video of massive gunfire at the protest last night seveneyes Aug 2015 #25
What is with these cops?! tblue Aug 2015 #29

JustAnotherGen

(32,023 posts)
1. Yep again
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:36 AM
Aug 2015

And unless we get loud and angry - it will continue to happen. The national/Federal level political process of the past 50 years has failed to protect us.

cstanleytech

(26,348 posts)
12. "The man then approached the officers, who were in an unmarked police car, and opened fire."
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Aug 2015

You want to get loud? Fine, get loud over how easy it is for people to get fucking guns.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. so it nothing to do with protestors. "plainclothes officers had been tracking the suspect, who they
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:49 AM
Aug 2015

"plainclothes officers had been tracking the suspect, who they believed was armed. The man then approached the officers, who were in an unmarked police car, and opened fire." police in the 2 cars shot back and that was it.

Why did police wait until who ever they were "plainclothes tracking" were within the crowds of protestors?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. They didn't. HE approached the car and started shooting
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:35 AM
Aug 2015

I hope everyone reads the accounts carefully before reacting

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
3. From the initial reports, this could have easily been a justified shooting
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:16 AM
Aug 2015

I'll at least sit back and wait for more details before we throw the police under the bus for this one.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
5. "One year later: Ferguson is still pumping out arrest warrants" < Lots of "justified"
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 07:50 AM
Aug 2015

enforcement there still...


...
A year after the fatal shooting of Michael Brown sparked a firestorm in Ferguson, the city is still pumping out thousands of new arrest warrants and jailing people over minor offenses, according to an exclusive CNNMoney analysis.

This practice continues despite a scathing report from the Department of Justice in March that found that Ferguson's police department and municipal court were unconstitutionally targeting low-income and minority residents with tickets and fines for minor offenses -- often in pursuit of revenue. The report noted that there were more than 16,000 people (residents and non-residents alike) with outstanding arrest warrants as of the end of last year, equivalent to around 75% of the town's population.

While the police were the ones giving out the tickets, the DOJ slammed the city's court for using arrest warrants to squeeze money out of the people least able to afford the fines. Even though there need to be repercussions for people who break the law and ignore their tickets, the DOJ says jail time is far too harsh a punishment for infractions that rarely pose a major threat to public safety.

But in the wake of the DOJ report, CNNMoney found that Ferguson is still at it. The city has issued more than 2,300 new arrest warrants so far this year and thousands of older warrants continue to haunt people -- even as neighboring municipalities are wiping out old tickets or warrants entirely.
...

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/06/news/ferguson-arrest-warrants/index.html?iid=ob_article_topstories_pool&iid=obnetwork


...by design.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. All I read was that they were following him because they thought he was armed. You may be
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:25 AM
Aug 2015

correct that this is one more example of police harassment. We need to know what crime he was supposed to have committed before we know what was really going on. If he committed some big crime - not the petty sh-t they usually use for an excuse - then maybe there was some justification. But is sounds like they were fishing for an excuse again.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. I think it is much larger than just an individual. There are so many crimes being committed by
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:10 PM
Aug 2015

the white folks around them all the time, crimes that bring tragedy to their lives that these incidents can't be viewed in a vacuum.

Any population treated like they continue to be treated is going to lash out. I think they have been remarkably restrained.


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. I totally agree. I was not talking about the whole situation just why they were following him.
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 02:45 PM
Aug 2015

That we have not had a huge backlash is amazing. All to the credit of the young marchers in Ferguson MO. They responded in what I consider in absolutely prefect way in the face of the tanks and police force. They illustrated the true situation for the world to see and drew in many people who have continued to support their cause.

I do not think that any type of violence is going to help this cause.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
24. "I do not think that any type of violence is going to help this cause" < That's what many said going
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 04:17 PM
Aug 2015

into the Civil War.

Here we are.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
26. My assumption is based on the fact that the police are not going to set around and let violence
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

especially against themselves go without fighting back. And unfortunately they have the power.

Now I am going to say something I have not said before: In a violent situation between white police and black citizens who do you think scared America is going to listen to? Especially in this "the police can do no wrong" world we see all around us.

I remember the Black Panthers killings. All America had to hear was that they were violent and armed. For the most part no one objected to their killing. I for one do not think America has changed for the better.

I do not want any more killings if it can be helped.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
27. But unarmed young black men are being executed. This week. Like in car dealerships. And 19
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:47 PM
Aug 2015

year old white kids are gunned down from the side. And another unarmed black...

I hear no one wants any more killing, yet black folk are still being killed.

Until that stops I am not sure anything up to and including dissolution of the country is off the table.

'Cause I just don't see where a subjugated people, a disrespected and murdered people, have any obligation to keep the status quo intact.

And if white folk think they are gonna be safe if the cops go to war on black folk, they've never lived outside of this country. lol

First their economy would go into the toilet and all those fine police forces would have those shiny assault vehicles while the roads fell apart. People might notice.

Then people might steal them to transport food.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. Of course this country deserves what it gets. I just don't have as much faith in the future as you
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:23 PM
Aug 2015

do. Chris Hayes on his news program about 3 weeks ago said that there had been 560 unarmed black persons killed in the year. I do not know where he got his info but it does not surprise me. Nothing that has been done so far is effective.

For me I have nightmares about something like Palestine in the latest war. Sitting ducks. And it will hurt white people but not the big money people who support hate and bigotry. In fact they are the ones who have built this message up to further their political hold on America. And they are the ones who can afford to get away from anything we do about the police. They will not be effected.

As to what can be done - I am assuming that there will be a back lash from the black community because they are being forced into self-defense. Unless something is done NOW. Unfortunately Ferguson MO is not the only community that needs changing. It is all across the country. We need some kind of government action NOW that will effect all those communities.

I do not know what is going to happen but I am very afraid. As my uncle would say when he wrote home from the Korean war "A hell is breaking loose."

Maybe my fear comes from living on a reservation and knowing what was done to Native Americans over the years. The USA does not have a conscience.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
30. No, I agree with you. I do think it is going to get worse, and there is no need. Just our
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:33 PM
Aug 2015

poor planning, poor treatment of neighbors, laziness.

There have been glimmers that this whole country could have been better than this, but I think that may be gone now.

I hope we let President Sanders make it 8 years, but I'm skeptical.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
32. We won a lot in the civil rights movement but we forgot that we would have to keep fighting to
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:50 PM
Aug 2015

keep it. And yes, the rw and the preachers have been teaching hate and bigotry for so long that it has taken over our way of thinking.

Civil rights are forever going to be an issue that must be maintained. I doubt that we are going to get a lot of this settled in my lifetime. But we have to start now. IMO one good start is to get as many POC registered to vote as we can. If the voters in Ferguson MO could get their own people into the city government they would be able to fire and hire police that do not do their job. God I would like to see that day.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
13. Most Police are faithfully performing a necessary job
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

Necessary because of violent and destructive people.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
23. Its still a necassary job
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 03:18 PM
Aug 2015

There is plenty of room for improvement, but I would be willing to bet if the police just left, things would not improve.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
15. The gun was stolen and I believe this was near one of the burglary sites
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 11:17 AM
Aug 2015

I think we can rule out the individual being a protester. Sounds like an opportunistic criminal who was desperate not to get caught.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
29. What is with these cops?!
Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:25 PM
Aug 2015

Can we partner up white cops with black cops? I don't know. Just trying to think of a solution we could implement right away. We can't wait!

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