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riversedge

(70,474 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:20 AM Dec 2016

House Democrats Want An Investigation Into Russian Hacking During The Election

Source: buzzfeed




Reps. Elijah Cummings and Eric Swalwell introduced legislation to create a bipartisan commission to look into “foreign interference” during the 2016 election.


posted on Dec. 7, 2016, at 2:59 p.

WASHINGTON — Two House Democrats have introduced legislation to investigate “foreign interference” during the 2016 election.

The legislation, if passed, would create an independent, bipartisan appointed commission to investigate foreign interference in this year’s election given the evidence that Russia was behind hacking throughout the course of the year.

“I think it would be congressional malpractice if we did not look into this,” said Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings at a press conference on Wednesday. “We cannot afford to let this be normal.”

Cummings and California Rep. Eric Swalwell are leading the initiative in the House, but across the Capitol Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham has also said he will lead an investigation on the matter, CNN reported.
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House Democrats Want An Investigation Into Russian Hacking During The Election (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2016 OP
didn't Nikita Kruschev say "We will bury you America without ever firing a shot".? putitinD Dec 2016 #1
Yes he did. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #4
I think we're doing a good job of burying ourselves. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #15
KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #2
From Eric Chien a cybersecurity expert on the DNC hack JonLP24 Dec 2016 #3
So we either take the bullshit on the cuff or mount an insurrection to Putin's establishment because lonestarnot Dec 2016 #5
I'm no friend of Russia bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #6
do you recall if any Republicans condemned Trumps invite to continue to invade or hack riversedge Dec 2016 #8
I think you are right bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #10
c'mon the US wasn't responsible for all that wordpix Dec 2016 #13
We were geopolitical opposition at every turn bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #16
House Oversight Democrats intensify push for probe of# Russian meddling in #2016election campaign riversedge Dec 2016 #7
Chaffetz wants to pursue HRC's emails, not Russian hacking's impact on our election wordpix Dec 2016 #14
.@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe riversedge Dec 2016 #9
Glad they are doing this. So sad so many want to pretend our elections are more secure than they Overseas Dec 2016 #12
Sen. Lindsey Graham offers to lead one; lawmakers propose a 9/11-style pane riversedge Dec 2016 #18
All the election manipulation needs investigation. Count all the provisional ballots & hand-count Overseas Dec 2016 #11
Birtherism runs back through Donald Trump to Orly Taitz bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #17

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. From Eric Chien a cybersecurity expert on the DNC hack
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:59 AM
Dec 2016
How do you determine attribution in a state-sponsored cyberattack? There seems to be some confusion over this in light of recent events.
Attribution isn’t going to happen from looking at things like the binary code that’s been created. You can get hints from that, but there’s a real big issue with what people call “false flags.” Even if someone writes in their nickname, or a handle, or uses a language operating system, or puts in dates of their working hours, they could be working in the middle of the night to throw you off. From a binary perspective, looking at the samples and how the attacks are conducted, it’s very difficult. The way attribution has to happen is through old-school intelligence. You have spies working in different countries getting information and discovering that countries have conducted different types of activities. You’re not going to see it purely through cyber forensic analysis.

The issue has come to the fore in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence—a combined 17 intelligence agencies—issued a statement saying Russia was behind the election hacking.
It is pretty clear judging by the indicators of compromise [IOCs]. The binaries that were used to hack the DNC as well as Podesta’s email as well as some other Democratic campaign folks, those IOCs match binaries and also infrastructure that was used in attacks that were previously recorded by others as having Russian origin. That much we can confirm. So if you believe other people’s—primarily government’s—attribution that those previous attacks were Russian, then these attacks are definitely connected. We’re talking about the same binaries, the same tools, the same infrastructure.

I understand you and your firm have spent significant time analyzing the DNC and Podesta hacks. What groups are responsible, and how did you determine attribution?

We’ve analyzed the tools, the binaries, and the infrastructure that was used in the attack, and from that we can confirm that it’s connected to a group that has two names. One is Sofacy, or “Cozy Bear,” and The Dukes, which is also known as “Fancy Bear.” From the binary analysis point of view, I can tell you that the activities of these attackers have been during Russian working hours, either centered on UTC+3 or UTC+4; they don’t work Russian holidays; they work Monday to Friday; there are language identifiers inside that are Russian; when you look at all the victim profiles they would be in interest to the Russian nation-state. So all of that stuff fits the profile. Now, could all those things be false flags? Sure. Other government entities obviously have come out and said it is the Russian state, and the binary forensics would definitely match that.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/05/cybersecurity-expert-proof-russia-behind-dnc-podesta-hacks.html

If Russia is behind it a lot of may not be declassified if "old school spying" uncovered attribution.
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
5. So we either take the bullshit on the cuff or mount an insurrection to Putin's establishment because
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:02 AM
Dec 2016

the facts are classified. We have no leader. Maybe everything will just jell together on its own. It's pretty much over.

bucolic_frolic

(43,547 posts)
6. I'm no friend of Russia
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 08:25 AM
Dec 2016

but they are pissed because we tried to have capitalist control of
the Eastern Europe the U.S.S.R. conquered during WWII, then we
toppled their communist system (thankfully), inverted Afghanistan,
tore down the Berlin Wall, and seem to tackle their puppets periodically,
not to mention whatever went on in Poland's Solidarity, Kosovo, and
now Ukraine, Syria. So yes, they and Putin are none too happy.

We had best beware, instead of inviting them to invade us by
cyberwarfare the way Donald J. Trump has done.

riversedge

(70,474 posts)
8. do you recall if any Republicans condemned Trumps invite to continue to invade or hack
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:19 AM
Dec 2016

our elections?? Seems to me their might have been one or two but I have forgotten.

bucolic_frolic

(43,547 posts)
10. I think you are right
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:44 AM
Dec 2016

the story broke on July 26 or 27 as I recall, around 11:30AM, and in the
first few hours one or two did condemn, the subject never to be heard
of again.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
13. c'mon the US wasn't responsible for all that
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:45 AM
Dec 2016

the Berlin Wall came down b/c Ray-gun ordered it? Really? We caused the wars the wars in Kosovo, Syria, and Russian takeover of Ukraine? Not true

bucolic_frolic

(43,547 posts)
16. We were geopolitical opposition at every turn
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:52 AM
Dec 2016

which is a different thing from assigning causality

c.f., Rise to Globalism Stephen E. Ambrose, who takes a very
dim view of the post WWII period as the USSR backed communists
and takeovers of the lands they conquered, while not understanding
why we deep-sixed communist movements in Italy, Greece, Turkey.

Plus, and I don't particularly agree with him on this, he sees FDR as
have little post-war vision or concern and thinks his main objective
was to minimize US casualities and emerge as the world's sole source
of investment capital.

riversedge

(70,474 posts)
7. House Oversight Democrats intensify push for probe of# Russian meddling in #2016election campaign
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Dec 2016



House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 12h12 hours ago

Democrats intensify push for probe of# Russian meddling in #2016election campaign http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/election-2016-trump-putin-russia-wikileaks … via @MotherJones






wordpix

(18,652 posts)
14. Chaffetz wants to pursue HRC's emails, not Russian hacking's impact on our election
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:49 AM
Dec 2016

The oligarchs backed by generals will be running US unless these recounts reveal something big.

Don doing something stooopid against US interests apparently doesn't matter.

riversedge

(70,474 posts)
9. .@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:33 AM
Dec 2016

I did not watch but here are a few tweets. Glad Cummings is on the air getting this issue out.


House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 7m7 minutes ago

.@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe: It would be congressional malpractice for us not to do anything about this #Russia hack on the #2016Election
0 replies 10 retweets 12 likes
House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 11m11 minutes ago

.@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe: This is bigger than #Trump. This is about saving our democracy. #Russia hack #2016Election
0 replies 4 retweets 9 likes
House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 12m12 minutes ago

.@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe: We've asked #Chaffetz to do an investigation into the #Russia hack and #2016Election. Radio silence.
3 replies 6 retweets 8 likes
House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 13m13 minutes ago

.@RepCummings on @Morning_Joe: All 17 federal agencies have said #Russia tried to interfere with #2016Election. #Trump has been briefed.
2 replies 16 retweets 12 likes
House OversightDems ‏@OversightDems 16h

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
12. Glad they are doing this. So sad so many want to pretend our elections are more secure than they
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:27 AM
Dec 2016

really are. Even though in past elections millions of provisional ballots were uncounted and ridiculously broad-brush voter roll purging was not exposed broadly enough.

I'm still shocked that the news media gave more weight to Comey's comments than to Russian interference.

And that there were torrents of fake news demonizing HRC while the truth about DJT cheating & incompetence was under-reported for so long.

riversedge

(70,474 posts)
18. Sen. Lindsey Graham offers to lead one; lawmakers propose a 9/11-style pane
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:36 PM
Dec 2016



Congressional Calls Grow for a Probe of Russian Hacking in U.S. Election

http://www.wsj.com/articles/congressional-calls-grow-for-a-probe-of-russian-hacking-in-u-s-election-1481151191
Sen. Lindsey Graham offers to lead one; lawmakers propose a 9/11-style panel

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
11. All the election manipulation needs investigation. Count all the provisional ballots & hand-count
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:15 AM
Dec 2016

spoiled ballots to be sure the tallies are correct.

We always pretend our elections are fine but voter suppression meant many were given provisional ballots that weren't counted.

We're also mocked for making too much of Russian interference but T invited them to hack, it is well known that our systems are hackable and leaks were only to damage HRC.

Yes, there are other reasons T may have won, but our elections are not secure.

bucolic_frolic

(43,547 posts)
17. Birtherism runs back through Donald Trump to Orly Taitz
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
Dec 2016

Orly Taitz is a Russian Birther Conspiracist as you might recall

So the Russian connection goes back further than most realize

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

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