Russia bans sale of gadgets without Russian-made software

[jpak]

Source: BBC

Russia has passed a law banning the sale of certain devices that are not pre-installed with Russian software.

The law will come into force in July 2020 and cover smartphones, computers and smart televisions.

Proponents of the legislation say it is aimed at promoting Russian technology and making it easier for people in the country to use the gadgets they buy.

But there are concerns about surveillance and fears that firms could pull out of the Russian market.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50507849

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TikTokski

Yup

[DUgosh]

1. Well of course they did

[safeinOhio]

2. Naw, they wouldn't

load em up with spy ware and all kinds of back doors. Going to need bigger concentration camps.

[iluvtennis]

4. Exactly. Don't have to wrry about me ever buying Russian gadgets. GAH

[Sapient Donkey]

3. That's some low effort on Russia's part...

come on, guys. Put some effort into doing it more stealthy way so you can at least have some plausible deniability or whatever....

On a related note, I am finding the book 'The Perfect Weapon' by David Sanger to be interesting.

https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Weapon-Sabotage-Fear-Cyber/dp/0451497899/

There is also an audio book for it on audible. Totally worth checking out.

[ArizonaLib]

5. Reminds me of the 'Buy American' days

where we promoted purchasing that helped the American job market.

The article's concerns about Russian companies pulling out, in effect makes room for any other Russian oligarch to move into that market. What the hell kind of businessman runs out on a near monopoly? - Oh wait, I remember one such idiot that bankrupted his own casino and managed to lose lucrative annual patronage from the PGA at his Florida resort. I guess it can be done.

[BannonsLiver]

12. Yeah they are so similar

Gadgets like iPhones and computers that people store personal information on that can be monitored by the govt, and American made cotton socks.

Basically the same thing, really.

[LanternWaste]

15. You may want to read Shoshana Zuboff's 'Big Data as Surveillance Capitalism'

As your desire to appear skeptical seems (ironically) a wee bit naive in regards to behavioral data used for analysis and sales in the marriage of US government and large commercial entities.

[crazytown]

6. There goes Apple.

This is one thing Apple has never compromised on - preloading their products with crapware - whether from carriers or anyone else. They have compromised removing by software from local AppStores, but not adding it,not even Flash when it reigned supreme on the the web.

Windows and Android - no problem. Manufacturers load them with their own crapware, for a start.

EDIT: They did load Macs with Internet Explorer from Microsoft, prior to developing Safari.

[C Moon]

7. Re-building of the Iron Curtain

[Historic NY]

8. But we been buying shit from all over the Pentagon uses imported electronics....

planes & ships electronics, other software,

[link:https://www.newsweek.com/russia-reviewed-security-software-used-pentagon-675586|]

[link:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-russia/tech-firms-let-russia-probe-software-widely-used-by-u-s-government-idUSKBN1FE1DT|]

[link:https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2018/07/pentagon-creates-do-not-buy-list-russian-chinese-software/150100/|]

The stupid still goes on.

[Ford_Prefect]

9. They've taken note of what China has done to control content and dissent.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Pre-installed malware/spyware. Big Brother is sniffing data packets. . . . . nt

[TomVilmer]

11. Actually a good idea...

... just like when the EU demands a free choice of browsers. And as somebody living in the EU, I am not more disturbed by possible Russian surveillance in Russia, than I am of US surveillance in Europe. More from the Big Brother companies misusing my data on a daily basis.

[BannonsLiver]

13. Well there's the pro putin, false equivalency point of view.

[TomVilmer]

16. - or the "outside of the bubble" POV

But thanks for showing how living in a sole Black/White world looks like.

[eppur_se_muova]

14. I'm sure there's a perfectly innocent explanation for this. nt

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

17. Clearing the way for the trump org...

...to sell used (and likely outlawed) US voting machines to Russia.