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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:09 PM Feb 2021

Trump was quite displeased with his impeachment defense team

Source: Politico

Cocooned at his Mar-a-Lago estate, Trump watched as his defense attorneys responded to an emotional presentation by House impeachment managers with a series of dry, technical and at times meandering arguments about due process and the constitutionality of the proceedings. As they droned on, he grew increasingly frustrated with the sharp contrast between their muted response and the prosecution’s opening salvo, according to two people familiar with his thinking.

It didn’t help that his lead attorney, former Pennsylvania prosecutor Bruce Castor, name-checked Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), who just days ago slammed his state party for their “weird worship” of Trump. Castor also referred to Trump as the “former president,” conceding that he had in fact lost the 2020 election when he was removed by “smart” voters last November.

One of the people familiar with Trump’s thinking said he saw his legal team’s performance as a missed opportunity and also was annoyed by the public criticism of his attorneys. And he wasn’t the only one.

Some people close to the president’s defense team said they quit watching the proceedings out of sheer frustration with Castor’s presentation and were confused by his refusal to use graphics or a video––tools his TV-obsessed client had hoped to deploy.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-was-quite-displeased-with-his-impeachment-defense-team/ar-BB1dxVrn?ocid=msedgntp

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Trump was quite displeased with his impeachment defense team (Original Post) TomCADem Feb 2021 OP
C'mon Trump, there's only one thing to do C_U_L8R Feb 2021 #1
Absolutely! pandr32 Feb 2021 #2
I like what someone on MSNBC said about Trump wanting tinymontgomery Feb 2021 #13
Yes! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2021 #30
That is such a great scene, Bogart at his best. n/t tinymontgomery Feb 2021 #34
I Would LOVE To See That! COL Mustard Feb 2021 #17
Oh yes! PatSeg Feb 2021 #24
You get what you paid for. Corgigal Feb 2021 #3
Castor riffed and Shoen raged agingdem Feb 2021 #6
they were both terrible, but Shoen was a joke...He should be portrayed in a bad lawyer movie Escurumbele Feb 2021 #10
I think that he was working on EndlessWire Feb 2021 #41
The A Through H Legal Teams Were Busy COL Mustard Feb 2021 #19
Boo effing hoo donnie. sheshe2 Feb 2021 #4
Do you think he shares the common pool there? PirateRo Feb 2021 #5
Check for orange water. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #22
It did kind of look like that Castor fella was wearing a trump-sized suit though flibbitygiblets Feb 2021 #40
I noticed that, too PirateRo Feb 2021 #44
Thoughts and prayers, Benedict Donald! generalbetrayus Feb 2021 #7
It goes to show how skewed he is just to think he has any case at all. bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #8
Well... Mike Nelson Feb 2021 #9
Amazing What Happens When Only Give Your Attorneys the Weekend to Prepare Stallion Feb 2021 #11
He sucked twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #12
Time to tune up the teeny tiny violin orchestra Hekate Feb 2021 #14
i believe the correct phrase is "WOMP WOMP" orleans Feb 2021 #33
Oh, that's the slide trombone part... Hekate Feb 2021 #39
Castor, Shoen, et al DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #15
Another attorney... swift93 Feb 2021 #16
Up-voting since I hope this leads to apoplexy in the ex-pee-resident. Hoping it stays alive erronis Feb 2021 #18
Truly, a legal team for all seasons... SeattleVet Feb 2021 #20
That's what happens when you have no defense. Talitha Feb 2021 #21
Trump sure chooses the best people/lawyers .. jb5150 Feb 2021 #23
Trump Should Just Roll Out a Potted Plant... TomCADem Feb 2021 #26
There were better lawyers on Night Court. Dave Starsky Feb 2021 #42
He, who shall not be named, is having a bad day? Dem2theMax Feb 2021 #25
I think they were worth every penny Donald Trump will never pay them. marble falls Feb 2021 #27
Well then why doesn't he defend himself? Kablooie Feb 2021 #28
Boohoo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 #29
When you take Donald Trump as a client Turbineguy Feb 2021 #31
"Trump's thinking"? mahannah Feb 2021 #32
You get what you pay for and Chump pays nothing. Hassler Feb 2021 #35
What's Trump's defense going to do: show pictures from tabloids, like Hillary and the alien baby? C Moon Feb 2021 #36
This is kind of empty reporting birdographer Feb 2021 #37
Thanks for your scrutiny I didn't read the article. live love laugh Feb 2021 #47
I'm sure his bank received a "stop payment" order from the Orange-utan. George II Feb 2021 #38
makes me happier. :) TeamPooka Feb 2021 #43
ah, shucky darns. riversedge Feb 2021 #45
WONDERFUL news. live love laugh Feb 2021 #46

C_U_L8R

(45,038 posts)
1. C'mon Trump, there's only one thing to do
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:12 PM
Feb 2021

Go down there yourself and put up your own defense. Proceed, magatbreath.

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
13. I like what someone on MSNBC said about Trump wanting
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:27 PM
Feb 2021

I like what someone on MSNBC said about Trump wanting to testify.
He wants his Colonel Jessup moment from “A Few Good Men.”

Kaffee: Did you order the Code Red?
Jessup: I did the job that—-
Kaffee: DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!
Jessup: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!!!


He’s chopping
at the bits to go in to the chamber:

Jamie Raskin: Did you order the insurrection?
Trump: I wanted to stop
Jamie Raskin: DID YOU ORDER THE INSURRECTION?
Trump: “YOUR GODDAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE INSURRECTION."

FailureToCommunicate

(14,033 posts)
30. Yes!
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:24 PM
Feb 2021



"I know exactly what he’d tell you, lies. He was no different from any other officer in the ward room, they were all disloyal. I tried to run the ship properly, by the book, but they fought me at every turn. The crew wanted to walk around with their shirt tails hanging out, that’s all right, let them. Take the tow line, defective equipment, no more, no less. But they encouraged the crew to go around scoffing at me, and spreading wild rumors about steaming in circles and then old yellow strain. I was to blame for Lt. Maryk’s incompetence and poor seamanship. Lt. Maryk was the perfect officer, but not Captain Queeg. Ah, but the strawberries, that’s, that’s where I had them..."

PatSeg

(47,750 posts)
24. Oh yes!
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:50 PM
Feb 2021

Sometimes, if you want something done right, damn it, you just have to do it yourself! Yes Don, you just fly up there and show those lawyers how it's done.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
3. You get what you paid for.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:17 PM
Feb 2021

If only you had a credit card that wouldn’t have declined the initial deposit.

Alas....

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
6. Castor riffed and Shoen raged
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:33 PM
Feb 2021

for what felt like days..Trump must be paying them hourly if he's paying them at all...

Escurumbele

(3,412 posts)
10. they were both terrible, but Shoen was a joke...He should be portrayed in a bad lawyer movie
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:11 PM
Feb 2021

Nothing he said made sense, for even non-curious trump to realize it says a lot.

EndlessWire

(6,574 posts)
41. I think that he was working on
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 12:14 AM
Feb 2021

a "the ends justify the means" defense. He was really dreadful. Otherwise, it made no sense. What do Greece and Rome have to do with Trump's engineering of an American insurrection?

COL Mustard

(5,966 posts)
19. The A Through H Legal Teams Were Busy
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:42 PM
Feb 2021

So the J-Team got called up to the majors, straight from Little League, apparently.

Oh well, it couldn't happen to a nicer criminal...erm..President.

sheshe2

(84,060 posts)
4. Boo effing hoo donnie.
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 07:19 PM
Feb 2021

You get what you pay for and since you never pay anyone ya get scaroooed. You were lucky to even get these two bozo's, dozens that walked before them refused to take your case. Others quit while they were ahead. No one luvs ya don.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
40. It did kind of look like that Castor fella was wearing a trump-sized suit though
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:51 PM
Feb 2021

when it comes to oversized suits, David Byrne wore it better

Mike Nelson

(9,984 posts)
9. Well...
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:09 PM
Feb 2021

... I agree with cocooned FORMER President - the defense team was not good, but they had a really awful client!

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
11. Amazing What Happens When Only Give Your Attorneys the Weekend to Prepare
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:21 PM
Feb 2021

cheap ass-you deserve it for handicapping and changing your attorneys in the final week before trial

 

swift93

(10 posts)
16. Another attorney...
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:38 PM
Feb 2021

stiffed for payment! Castor just ruined his career, in addition to having an unpaid and humiliating presentation.

erronis

(15,469 posts)
18. Up-voting since I hope this leads to apoplexy in the ex-pee-resident. Hoping it stays alive
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 08:41 PM
Feb 2021

for a very long time to watch his spawn and his hopes crash.

SeattleVet

(5,484 posts)
20. Truly, a legal team for all seasons...
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:00 PM
Feb 2021

...all Four Seasons.

All the time."The Four Seasons Law Office and Adult Bookstore"

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
26. Trump Should Just Roll Out a Potted Plant...
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 09:58 PM
Feb 2021

...just to show off how much Republican Senators are in his pocket and demonstrate how they are ready to let him get away with murder.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
42. There were better lawyers on Night Court.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 12:15 AM
Feb 2021

It's too bad Harry Anderson isn't still around to weigh in on this.

Kablooie

(18,647 posts)
28. Well then why doesn't he defend himself?
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 10:05 PM
Feb 2021

I won't be surprised if he feels the need to jump in and declare himself the true president and try to instigate the coup all over again in the middle of his trial about attempting a coup.

That would be fun.

birdographer

(1,374 posts)
37. This is kind of empty reporting
Tue Feb 9, 2021, 11:07 PM
Feb 2021

It's all written about the impressions of people "familiar with his thinking." So this is what they are guessing is happening. They have no idea what is actually happening at Mar-a-Lardo. Maybe donnie is just too involved with his bucket of KFC and eating around the bones to really have any idea what is happening with the trial. People "familiar with this thinking" are just trying to imagine what he might think of all this. He might be mad at Castor, he might not. There are no facts here, just conjecture. Sheesh.

live love laugh

(13,214 posts)
47. Thanks for your scrutiny I didn't read the article.
Wed Feb 10, 2021, 11:41 AM
Feb 2021

Sounds like more of what passes for journalism in America’s Republican-owned media. Sadly.

Trump keeps a very tight circle so it’s not likely to expect this kind of information.

I’ve seen this same “article“ from multiple “sources“... as if it’s important to get this perception out there.

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