Oil selloff intensifies on Covid fears and risk of US-China intervention
Source: CNN
The oil market has gone from booming to busting, much to the relief of inflation-weary American drivers ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday.
US crude tumbled to a fresh seven-week low on Friday, settling at $76.10 a barrel. The slide is good news for American drivers hurt by the seven-year high in gasoline prices a crunch that has soured consumers' views on the US economy.
"We will definitely see some pricing relief on gasoline at the pump," Tom Kloza, president of the Oil Price Information Service, told CNN on Friday, adding that the relief will be "feather-like as opposed to plunges."
After a relentless rise, the national average gas price has finally leveled off at $3.41 a gallon, according to AAA. That's roughly flat from a week ago.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/oil-selloff-intensifies-on-covid-fears-and-risk-of-us-china-intervention/ar-AAQUw2Q?ocid=DELLDHP&li=BBnb7Kz
Evolve Dammit
(16,820 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,803 posts)And if it did, I would think....if 6 was 9.
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NickB79
(19,301 posts)Planning on a solar install myself in a few yrs
OAITW r.2.0
(24,803 posts)to address the situation. CMP actually draws down on my reserves when the grid needs extra energy. I pay the $20,00/mo for the privilege..
reACTIONary
(5,797 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,820 posts)I put solar on my house in March and have been racking up credit (dollars) every month...except one month in summer where it cost us $5 out of the credit we've built up.
I'm wanting to get a hybrid plug-in van but haven't been able to swing it yet.
Can't go full electric because we go camping at places which don't necessarily have electricity and are up in the mountains where there's no charging stations along the way to get there.
But it'd be really nice to be able to personally take more advantage of the electricity we're producing rather than selling it back to the electric company.
Evolve Dammit
(16,820 posts)A van would be sweet for camping!
I usually buy a vehicle and drive it until it threatens to fall apart. My last van was 18 years old when I finally sold it and got something else.
We'd bought it the day before 9/11.
Red Mountain
(1,742 posts)What will replace the gas taxes that fund our highway system? Higher rates to renew your license plates?
Rich folks can opt out of paying for the roads they use. Buy electric (probably with a subsidy) and put up solar panels.
Poor people can't.
reACTIONary
(5,797 posts)... don't know how it would be administered, but it would be a fair usage tax.
Smackdown2019
(1,193 posts)People travel across state lines, not to mention have half mile driveways....mile round trips... x 365 days a year is atleast 365 miles on one's own property....
reACTIONary
(5,797 posts)... I just know that it has been proposed, and if it could work "reasonably well" I think it could be "relatively fair".
People with long drive ways pay the tax on the gas they burn driving on them now. Because of where I live, I often drive across state lines and back without filling up on the other side. So nothing is perfect.
Smackdown2019
(1,193 posts)Toll tax would be more appropriate...
Evolve Dammit
(16,820 posts)yes, there was the initial outlay for the solar panels, despite the rebate/incentive. I believe Germany has 90% of homes with solar, and that was a decade ago or so. It can be done.
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)JCMach1
(27,591 posts)Plus I usually do it on 110v so no expensive infrastructure needed, just an outlet in my garage.
Evolve Dammit
(16,820 posts)JCMach1
(27,591 posts)drray23
(7,639 posts)not sure why thats the case. Whenever the price of a barrel goes up, its reflected at the pump the next day. When it goes down, its a bit slower..
MissMillie
(38,616 posts)My second thought was that the prices drop just as the President announces that he want the FTC to look into any mis-deeds regarding oil prices.
Biden put them on notice
Gas stations have to guess what their price to buy gas will be next time their tanks are filled. If they guess wrong and undercharge now, it'll bite them in the butt next time they have the tanker truck stop by.
So they're very conservative in cutting their prices and very quick to raise them when it looks like their costs are going up.
For small mom-and-pop convenience stores, guessing right can be the difference between staying in business or not.
When my uncle had a convenience store, it typically cost him over $50,000 when the tanker truck came by. So costs rapidly going up ten or twenty percent really hurt because he wouldn't have been collecting enough money from the customers to cover it.
He eventually lost the store when things went wrong and he didn't have the money to pay the tanker truck. They didn't extend credit to stores, it was "pay when we show up or you're screwed".
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)invested 20 yrs. ago for retirement . plus , has a deep aquifer well , no water bill . been in construction & saw this shit coming ! he just retired .
BumRushDaShow
(130,156 posts)This is the season of "winter blend" which is supposed to be "cheaper" to make and is deployed to handle the colder temps yet, you still had what I call a "spite spike".
We do know that the retailers are always quick to raise the prices but very very slow to drop then.
I'm glad the article did shake off the amnesia about last year with this -
That "-$40 (or thereabouts)/bbl was because Russia and Saudi were engaged in a production/price war and glutted the market.
durablend
(7,469 posts)You watch on Monday it'll be "pandemic over, drivers taking to the road in record numbers!" and the price will be right back up
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)to much supply or not enough ! wall street run's this country , not the government ! look at at the last 5 yrs. , TFG guy bragging how the stock market every day , you think he was worried about the population, get at a life !
Rebl2
(13,621 posts)2.88 yesterday where I live. Earlier in the week it was 2.91. Last week it was 3.01. Its coming down slowly.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,257 posts)When you factor in the CPI and inflation adjusted dollars, the annual average cost of gas has only varied by about about 20 cents over the last 35 years.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,257 posts)Look what THAT has done for us! It's turned us into a bunch of fat, slovenly pigs! People here have been complain about milk going up to over $3 a gallon. There are places in the world where it's over $3 a litre!
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=8
Here are the numbers on beef:
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=121
IronLionZion
(45,682 posts)or will they credit Trump for this?
The article is an interesting read with the strategic reserves for the US and China and pandemic fears in Europe. As many countries open up travel, Europe is restricting again.
multigraincracker
(32,764 posts)never buy anything inside the gas station, only buy gas and less gas more often. Get gasbuddy on your phone and drive further to get the cheapest.
There is little completion in retail gas. They all go up and down at the same time, so reward the best deal and others will follow.
Most retailers make their money on the crap you buy other than fuel. Hot dogs, coffee, smokes and sweets. All of those are cheaper elsewhere. When gas prices are going up, don't go in. Just buy fuel. They will soon catch on.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)multigraincracker
(32,764 posts)in store sales and store cost, i.e. wages. Those are the only things that matter to them. If store sales are falling, so does their pay and they will do anything to increase them and they are always looking for ways to cut the pay of the workers. That is how it works.
EX500rider
(10,893 posts)Gas is almost a lost leader to get you in the store to buy the high margin stuff.
multigraincracker
(32,764 posts)Always go to the cheapest one.
roamer65
(36,748 posts)This undercuts Russian oil prices BIG TIME.