BREAKING NEWS: CIA Director Petraeus submits resignation letter, citing extramarital affair
Source: MSNBC
BREAKING NEWS: Director of CIA, David Petraeus, submits letter of resignation
BREAKING NEWS: CIA Director Petraeus submits resignation letter, citing extramarital affair
Updated Link:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15054517-cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns-cites-extramarital-affair
Gen. David Petraeus has resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency, MSNBC reports.
MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell broke the news Friday afternoon, reading Petraeus' resignation letter on air.
Petraeus wrote in the letter to the CIA staff on Friday that he had gone to the White House on Thursday and asked the president "for personal reasons" to resign.
"After being married for more than 37 years I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair," Petraeus wrote in his letter. "Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as a leader of an organization such as ours."
Petraeus said that the president accepted his resignation on Thursday.
This is a breaking news entry. More to come...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-resigns-cia-director-affair_n_2103094.html
Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/default.aspx?id=11881780&q=patreaus&search=p&1=st&1
NRaleighLiberal
(60,038 posts)Watchdog Progressive @Watchdogsniffer
BREAKING: Gen. David Petraeus resigns CIA due to personal reasons..... engaged in an extra-marital affair via #MSNBC #p2
demwing
(16,916 posts)You have to wonder if he was holding that letter till after the election
JohnnyRingo
(18,696 posts)I hadn't considered that Petraeus may have been waiting so as not to affect the election. If so, I respect his patriotic decision not to steal the limelight from the CIC.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)I am not trying to be mean to you, but his decision to wait until after the election, if that is what he did, was not patriotic. It was a good thing, but not patriotic.
There was no reason for General Petraeus' affair to be a part of the election. President Obama did not have anything to do with the affair. It was not and is not in the President's job description to prevent people from cheating on their spouses.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,414 posts)and they would have tried it to Benghazi (eg Fox News). Petraeus is generally seen as Republican-leaning. No, it'd wouldn't make any sense, but then they gave up doing that some time ago. It would have been a mess, and I think it's good that it didn't happen right before the election; if he did delay until after, that reflects well on him (he's not a crazy Republican).
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)rumors re the Benghazi mess.
JohnnyRingo
(18,696 posts)...and whether or not you like him, he's a lifer in the military, and as such I'm sure he respects the chain of command.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)in his resignation, so let's stop all the guessing and innuendos. Serves no purpose because we'll never know.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)to our national security.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)which is the real concern.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Democrats_win
(6,539 posts)Part of me wouldn't mind seeing the CIA closed. Although they did help get OBL, they didn't stop 9/11. They're pretty expensive for doing such a poor job.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)regarding possible Al Qaeda attacks on US soil. I think his stated reason for resigning is probably cover and he was asked to leave by the President for his handling of the Benghazi attacks.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Suich
(10,642 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Court Martial. Solitary confinement and forced to stand naked.
Mme. Defarge
(8,063 posts)Enough of a reason to resign? Vulnerable to blackmail?
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,384 posts)... blackmailers got nothing.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)He admitted post hoc due to the affair., not despite it.
Had he kept silent, the potential for blackmail would indeed have been present.
Mme. Defarge
(8,063 posts)BEFORE he publicly confessed and resigned?
onenote
(42,854 posts)I don't. What makes Petraeus' infidelity more troubling. Do you think the President has a lower security clearance than the CIA director?
dsc
(52,173 posts)are often forced to resign.
onenote
(42,854 posts)If its because of the risk of them disclosing secrets or being blackmailed, what differentiates them from any other official with a top secret security clearance, including the President?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)By having an affair, they've demonstrated they will lie to someone who is supposed to be extremely important to them.
onenote
(42,854 posts)I'm playing devil's advocate a bit here, but seeing as I didn't think President Clinton's infidelity while in office justified calls for his resignation, I'm wondering why it seems so self-evident that Petraeus, or others who have security clearances, are held to a different standard.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)He is the security clearance.
Congress delegated the entire security clearance process to the Executive branch. The process flows from executive orders, many of which delegate the process further.
What that means is the President has access to all classified information no matter what. Even if he has been convicted of espionage. There's no one who has the authority to cut off his access as long as he's in office.
onenote
(42,854 posts)If the reason for demanding the resignation of someone with access to secret information who has an affair is that they might compromise security by letting slip some information or might be susceptible to blackmail, why wouldn't the same standard apply to the president, who has the greatest access to secret information of anyone?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The resignation is because he can't do the job because his clearance is gone.
There's no mechanism to take away a President's clearance.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)should Bush have resigned for banging Condi?
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Javaman
(62,540 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Retired in 2011.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)sarge43
(28,946 posts)Javaman
(62,540 posts)sarge43
(28,946 posts)An army corps, a major air command or fleet could be formed up with all the military who violate that article. Looking at you, John McCain.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)under the UCMJ
grasswire
(50,130 posts)So, so against national security.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)3:00PM EST November 9. 2012 - NBC reported Friday that CIA director David Petraeus has resigned from the CIA, citing an extramarital affair.
NBC's Andrea Mitchell said the resignation was submitted in a letter dated Friday and was accepted by the White House.
In a letter, Petraeus noted that he had been married for 37 years and had exercised "extremely poor judgment' in conducting an extramarital affair ...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/09/david-petraeus-cia-resign-nbc/1695271/
GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)what the OP has already made clear?
rosesaylavee
(12,126 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)Red edit message is currently suppressed due to high traffic
I looked for, and posted, material I thought provided more info
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)an opportunity to post a link and drive up your post count.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,038 posts)pinto
(106,886 posts)skydive forever
(449 posts)you have to be very disciplined. This shows even someone like him is human deep down.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)It seems that you really do not have to be very disciplined to be a general. A number of generals, admirals, and high ranking officers get into trouble concerning sex and other things. Generals and high ranking officers can be a wild bunch. It seems you just do not hear about it all the time.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)The scuttlebutt claims he even wanted to leave Mamie for Kay Summersby but got such a dressing down from the brass back home, that he backed down. I was reading once that men in high offices and positions of power have more testosterone than men in everyday life. That usually translates to higher sex drives according to the article. Individual morals and conscience take over from there.
sarge43
(28,946 posts)Eisenhower and Kay Summersby immediately come to mind.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Or he wouldn't be resigning
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)(such as hiring bin Laden) is more costly than doing nothing?
I suggest Kucinich.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)missed the impending break-up of the USSR.
Jay-sus, you can't make this shit up.
SharonRB
(28,087 posts)I was only half joking. I'd love to see Republican heads explode by having her or Joe Wilson named as head of the CIA. Talk about karma!
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)wicket
(14,901 posts)WOW!
valerief
(53,235 posts)to deal with consensual sex nonsense.
Unless, of course, the sex nonsense is a cover for something real.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)onenote
(42,854 posts)I didn't think President Clinton's infidelity disqualified him from serving as president and he obviously has as high a security clearance as anyone in government.
rurallib
(62,483 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,696 posts)That's the reason he has to go. If the CIA director puts himself in a position where he can be blackmailed, it puts US security at risk.
Surprising conduct from a man who is known for his professionalism.
BainsBane
(53,137 posts)The CIA screwed up the intel and made the White House look bad.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)or was scared he would have been found out. There's no way he could have hidden anything like this.
mac56
(17,575 posts)but maybe it is just what it appears to be.
randome
(34,845 posts)BainsBane
(53,137 posts)over Benghazi. That was before the affair story become public. Evidently he has never been a good fit with the CIA since he comes from a military background.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)But to be unfaithful with an entire city? I can't see it.
I don't see any evidence this is about Benghazi, and if he was being fired, convincing him to trash his own life is the wrong way to do it.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)BainsBane
(53,137 posts)Before the affair story broke. On MSNBC they said that Obama wanted to get rid of Petraeus. They thought it was a result of Benghazi. Now they could have been wrong. Then a couple of hours later this story breaks. I did NOT base my post on a right wing source.
underpants
(183,043 posts)of course when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Something the general public couldn't easily digest and dismiss...Something that isn't as media-friendly as a sex sandal between consenting adults...
bayareamike
(602 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)And it could be, but he was CIA so it could be damn near anything...
glinda
(14,807 posts)to step down to avoid more tension in this Country?
ciking724
(78 posts)My next thought is that Rove and his cohorts tried to get him to play along with that Benghazi thing and he wouldn't, so they were going to expose him. This sounds more believable to me.
demhottie
(292 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)... "Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position," Petraeus said in his resignation letter. "After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours."
"This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation," Petraeus said in the letter ...
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/NATL-CIA-Director-Petraeus-Resigns-Cites-Extra-Marital-Affair-178159541.html
are_you_serious_1234
(54 posts)Anyone have any theories of what that investigation may have been about?
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)are_you_serious_1234
(54 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)but whatever you do, don't lay us!
PCIntern
(25,656 posts)wow.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)windowpilot
(115 posts)n/t
demwing
(16,916 posts)how did he betray us?
windowpilot
(115 posts)Welcome to DU...
demwing
(16,916 posts)Thanks, I guess? I've been here for years...
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demwing
(16,916 posts)Sorry, I didn't notice
windowpilot
(115 posts)I try to ignore all the 180's on this site, but sometimes it's hard when they ask stupid questions...
demwing
(16,916 posts)but I have heard some very ridiculous answers.
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demwing
(16,916 posts)what else ya got?
windowpilot
(115 posts)Some people live and learn, others just post...
demwing
(16,916 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)...you have to question whether this is about an affair. Though embarrassing and a bit scandalous, it's not necessarily a career killer. Resignation is.
Whatever his reasons were, I respect him for holding off until after the election.
demwing
(16,916 posts)I can't imagine a smarter, more connected person, with the ability to see all angles on a situation.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)sarge43
(28,946 posts)blueclown
(1,869 posts)struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)By Greg Miller, Friday, November 9, 3:18 PM
... In a statement, Obama said that Petraeus has provided extraordinary service to the United States for decades, saying that through his lifetime of service David Petraeus has made our country safer and stronger.
Although the statement did not directly address Petraeuss reason for resigning, the president said his thoughts and prayers are with Dave and Holly Petraeus, who has done so much to help military families through her own work. I wish them the very best at this difficult time.
Over the past week, Petraeus had traveled to Libya and Jordan, and directed the agencys response to the controversy surrounding the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi. Officials said Petraeus insisted the controversy had nothing to do with his decision to resign.
He came into the CIA job after a distinguished U.S. Army career that carried him from West Point to leadership positions in which he was tapped to lead the war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/david-petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director/2012/11/09/636d204e-2aa8-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_story.html
barbtries
(28,824 posts)or get a divorce, but why does he have to resign his job? republicans in congress never do.
MrYikes
(720 posts)ciking724
(78 posts)that the Romney people were peddling, but tried to hook him with inside information on Benghazi? I remember reading something that Woodward said a few days ago, when he said they showed up at his house.
randome
(34,845 posts)To the point where even Woodward was disgusted with them.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)What was it Gen. Patton said about soldiers who won't fornicate?
Whatever it was, he wasn't talking about the head of the CIA.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)Indi Guy
(3,992 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)this is good news indeed.
ffr
(22,681 posts)It's what is best for the country. He did right in his timing.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)are_you_serious_1234
(54 posts)Thanks.
Gin
(7,212 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)Totally baseless theory. Just speculating.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)String the ass up on his petard and be DONE with him.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)I will be interested to see if there is more to this story.
reflection
(6,286 posts)for the next few weeks. Even the hamster that spins the wheel of the Free Republic server will be screaming "CONSPIRACY"
aletier_v
(1,773 posts)how they hate Patraeus, too.
Both sites hate Boehner, too.
It's quite interesting.
SouthLouisianaWoman
(52 posts)...that this may be a result of the Army officer on trial for sexual offenses. Ricks said that the officer--Sinclair--has supposedly said that if he's going to do time then he's going to take others with him. And maybe Petraeus is one of them.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)The sex scandal bombshell that drudge was talking about. Honestly thought they were just trying to stir up bullshit before the election. Guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Caeser67
(156 posts)Just lost his favorite General. Goes the hope of Republicans, EVERYWHERE.
Solly Mack
(90,803 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Put in a real bulldog that'll help start cutting off black ops and redirect the slush funds back to the U.S. Treasury.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)kick
MrDiaz
(731 posts)having an affair make you not qualified to direct the CIA? Is he still gonna testify for Obama on the Benghazi BS?
olddad56
(5,732 posts)csziggy
(34,140 posts)And that she may have seen information she should not have. I was working on a project and not paying complete attention so I didn't catch all the details.
It was discussed on Hardball - watch the re-run coming up in at 7 ET.
watrwefitinfor
(1,401 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)or a least had a W-2 with their name on it. These military brass guys are all about the resumes
Phlem
(6,323 posts)or is he covering up something much worse?
-p
Ter
(4,281 posts)The CIA covers up the JFK assassination and untold other secrets. Yet the head of it can't hide something as simple as his own affair? Wow, anyone that incompetent should resign.
CRH
(1,553 posts)All the sleasy shit the CIA has done over the years in the name of country and Wall St., and he is going to fall on an infidelity sword? I smell something much more rotten than is being said.
cstanleytech
(26,361 posts)"Like most Americans I admire the integrity and the candor that General Petraeus showed in his hearings before Congress." ? I wonder if he regrets those words now?
adicortez
(47 posts)If Gingrich can come back (for a short-lived run at POTUS) so can he. I hope he doesn't. Obama had nothing but good things to say about the man so I'll trust his judgement.
cstanleytech
(26,361 posts)he is still a piece of shit for cheating on his wife just like Clinton while being a great president (in my opinion atleast) is a piece of shit for cheating on Hillary and Gingrich is a piece of shit for cheating on his varies wives.
David__77
(23,636 posts)In fact, if he is otherwise the best person for the job, it is entirely irresponsible and the resignation should be rejected.
pointsoflight
(1,372 posts)David__77
(23,636 posts)And I would hope the media are framing it as such.
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)aandegoons
(473 posts)Who would have ever guessed.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)"The prevailing wisdom is that Mike Vickers wants this with all his heart and soul," the official told AOL Defense. Vickers, now the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, is the legendary former CIA operative who led the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan chronicled in the book, Charlie Wilson's War. Another candidate is Stephanie O'Sullivan, the principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence.
I guess we can look forward to more of the same old shit from the CIA.
glinda
(14,807 posts)If even possible....
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Tutonic
(2,522 posts)Could the General be a Playa?