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riversedge

(70,388 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:26 PM Dec 2022

'We want total war': Young Republican group cheers on the next insurrection

Last edited Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: raw story



Sarah K. Burris December 11, 2022





While Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) promised that if she were in charge of Jan. 6, people would have been more armed and dangerous, other speakers at the Young Republicans gala in New York City talked about the next civil war.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremism throughout the United States, cited the speech from the Young republican president Gavin Wax, who told the Upper East side gala, “We want to cross the Rubicon. We want total war. We must be prepared to do battle in every arena. In the media. In the courtroom. At the ballot box. And in the streets."
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Hatewatch reporters were on hand to observe as white nationalists Peter and Lyndia Brimelow of VDARE met with Steve Bannon and Donald Trump Jr., where they took selfies.

"Republicans publicly lauded members of an Austrian political party founded by World War II-era German Nazi party members," said the SPLC observers. Newsweek opinion editor Josh Hammer joked with "racist political operative Jack Posobiec," the site said. Posobiec was the one who spread the false Pizzagate conspiracy. Newsweek has grown increasingly friendly to extremists over the past several years as Hammer invited Posobiec onto his podcast. Though lately, he's been more supportive of Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) over Donald Trump. ...........................


Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/republican-party-wants-war/



I wonder if any of young Repugs would survive a US military boot camp??? [I doubt it!!]
More at link via the story.





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EDIT to ADD: link from above story:



https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/12/11/white-nationalists-other-republicans-brace-total-war

White Nationalists, Other Republicans Brace for ‘Total War’




December 11, 2022
Hannah Gais and Michael Edison Hayden

A collection of radical right figures including white nationalists and ultranationalist European leaders gathered in Manhattan for the New York Young Republicans Club’s (NYYRC) annual gala Saturday night, where that group’s president declared “total war” on perceived enemies.
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The white nationalists of VDARE snap a selfie with Steve Bannon at the NYYRC gala on Dec. 10. From left to right: Peter Brimelow, Steve Bannon, Lydia Brimelow. (Photo by Michael Edison Hayden)

At the five-hour event, which Hatewatch reporters attended, white nationalists Peter and Lydia Brimelow of VDARE hobnobbed with Steve Bannon, a former Trump adviser and White House official. Donald Trump Jr. was also in attendance.

Republicans publicly lauded members of an Austrian political party founded by World War II-era German Nazi party members. Racist political operative Jack Posobiec shared jokes across a table with Josh Hammer, the opinion editor of Newsweek. Multiple recently elected GOP congresspeople applauded Marjorie Taylor Greene, who told the NYYRC crowd in the event’s closing remarks that the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol would have succeeded if she had planned it and that the insurrectionists would have been armed.
Marjorie Taylor Greene...................




Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene talks with guests at the NYYRC gala on Dec. 10, 2022 in Manhattan. (Photo by Michael Edison Hayden)

“Then Jan. 6 happened. And next thing you know, I organized the whole thing, along with Steve Bannon,” Greene said, referring to allegations that she had led reconnaissance tours of the Capitol for soon-to-be insurrectionists in the days prior to the violence..........................
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'We want total war': Young Republican group cheers on the next insurrection (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2022 OP
Sometimes I fear there's a war brewing bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #1
It's sad to see what's happened to Newsweek. I'm old enough to remember pnwmom Dec 2022 #2
Here's the link from the article, for those who might consider Raw Story "questionable". keep_left Dec 2022 #3
Thanks, I had just added this link and a bit of the link story to OP-- riversedge Dec 2022 #4
Dangerous language?? No such thing in America! Say what you want! It's all protected, and must ofc Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #6
problem is we can't have free speech and democracy if we keep letting RW and russians coordinate certainot Dec 2022 #32
you shouldnt be allow to have a monopoly on free speech Fullduplexxx Dec 2022 #35
political talk radio is the only major media monopoly. there are free easy 'alternatives' for FOX, certainot Dec 2022 #45
Incitement is not free speech. nt. markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #49
Germany can arrest such people, and just did! Difference? Hate speech laws. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #5
It would be welcome by me. Overdue IMHO Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #8
Fox "News" was refused a license to broadcast here DFW Dec 2022 #57
Sensible law, democracy needs a shield, and it's not unrestricted free speech. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #65
Thing is..they are dead in the water! No up coming youth vote, saw a story here yesterday about PortTack Dec 2022 #7
They won't need "youth" or much of any vote. The supreme court is working on that right now. PSPS Dec 2022 #22
Marc Elias, Neil Katyal, rob Reiner and several others, some who were there for the arguments PortTack Dec 2022 #54
Sue them Botany Dec 2022 #9
domestic terrorism pure and simple. Do I need to draw a diagram DOJ? They aren't carrying signs. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #13
fuck the "double down" traitors - time for maximum anti-terror, RICO, and sedition penalties bringthePaine Dec 2022 #10
exactly. We gotta go back to when this shit was met head on. And yeah I welcome their hatred. Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #11
Impossible. Free speech would be violated! More important than arresting coup plotters, apparently?? Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #41
We either do it that way or we WILL be fighting them in the streets. hadEnuf Dec 2022 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #12
Most all of the don't understand war.... ashredux Dec 2022 #14
Be Careful what you wish for, Assholes. nt Cha Dec 2022 #15
That was my first thought, also. Kath2 Dec 2022 #38
I feel terrible for young ladies who have to wade through the single scene, vetting Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #16
Remember vercetti2021 Dec 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #23
Good things is, there aren't that many of them. paleotn Dec 2022 #24
I dont think they hide it; on their vehicle, hat, t-shirt, FB posts, etc. oldsoftie Dec 2022 #27
Could have sworn that some of them were using handkerchiefs Baitball Blogger Dec 2022 #31
I mean in their everyday living. Shouldn't take long to find out what they believe. oldsoftie Dec 2022 #39
No need! Free speech in A,Erica allows to to openly plan a coup! We just witnessed it! Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #40
I was responding to a post about young women being able to tell what mindset men have oldsoftie Dec 2022 #42
Be careful vercetti2021 Dec 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #26
They live a life of privilege and comfort and want to burn it all down. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #19
Butt Plug Marge is just itching for violence. zuul Dec 2022 #20
Sound more like Total Whine to me. NT mwooldri Dec 2022 #21
Gee, where HAVE I heard that before? Oh, yeah. Feb. 18, 1943. Starting at about 1:41 here........ DFW Dec 2022 #25
The GOP now has an ISIS problem on its' hands. And it's their own fault. Initech Dec 2022 #28
Civil War CitizenZero Dec 2022 #29
You are absolutely correct. We need to take them quite seriously. hadEnuf Dec 2022 #47
It is time to go on the offense. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #67
Sorry to say, but, BidenRocks Dec 2022 #30
Well, just don't expect them to be the ones who are fighting that war Warpy Dec 2022 #33
Oh, Butt-Plug living her best life! GenThePerservering Dec 2022 #34
Gettin' real close to fuck their 1st Amendment protections... EarthFirst Dec 2022 #36
I agree, but how? Openly supporting a failed coup probably can't arrest, sad as that is. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #44
+1000 hadEnuf Dec 2022 #48
We should encourage these nitwits to fight with each other. We all need a good laugh housecat Dec 2022 #37
wanna face the national gaurd and or the us army ? good luck with that . AllaN01Bear Dec 2022 #46
I've seen a picture of this Wax guy jmowreader Dec 2022 #50
Future Brown shirts . Permanut Dec 2022 #51
Have any of them actually said what future they envision? jmbar2 Dec 2022 #52
More like young rapists club! Crowman2009 Dec 2022 #53
Mark my words... She will be running for president. Kablooie Dec 2022 #55
They echo the man who made the phrase "total war" famous. Maybe they will follow in his footsteps. DFW Dec 2022 #56
Buncha misfits onetexan Dec 2022 #58
hey, traitor greene, you fascist idiot, those insurrectionists WERE armed. Guns. niyad Dec 2022 #59
Only when they are bleeding out in the street from bullet wounds Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2022 #60
Fascist idiots. The Jungle 1 Dec 2022 #61
No political agenda so it's not terrorism IronLionZion Dec 2022 #62
My gay marriage is older than these twerps. Otterdaemmerung Dec 2022 #63
Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Dec 2022 #64
Get them before they get you, by every and all means. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #66
Ok, those photos might show Republicans, but ... JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2022 #68

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
2. It's sad to see what's happened to Newsweek. I'm old enough to remember
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:43 PM
Dec 2022

when it was supposed to be a liberal publication.

keep_left

(1,795 posts)
3. Here's the link from the article, for those who might consider Raw Story "questionable".
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 06:53 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/12/11/white-nationalists-other-republicans-brace-total-war

These "Young Republicans" are really using dangerous language. I sure hope everyone who attended ends up on multiple Three-Letter-Agency watch lists.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
6. Dangerous language?? No such thing in America! Say what you want! It's all protected, and must ofc
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:02 PM
Dec 2022

be met with more free speech…pro insurrection and hate speech and anti! ….so nothing like an insurrection or coup can ever happen in America! Could it?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
32. problem is we can't have free speech and democracy if we keep letting RW and russians coordinate
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:15 PM
Dec 2022

messaging on 1500 radio stations and dominate the media buzz in 40+ stations

that's not free speech. those stations have all denied global warming for 30 years and been used by putin since at least 2008 and they are all licensed to operate in the public interest.

until americans fix that 'free speech' serves fascists, misogynists, and racists

that's where these POSs got their alt reality. does anyone think a bunch of 40 and 50 year olds got it off twitter and facebook? even a lot of the 20 and 30 yo spend time driving with the radio

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
45. political talk radio is the only major media monopoly. there are free easy 'alternatives' for FOX,
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:34 PM
Dec 2022

social media, internet, newspapers in this country.

rw radio is the problem, the ONLY significant media difference but dem and media leadership continue to ignore it

very stupid

DFW

(54,469 posts)
57. Fox "News" was refused a license to broadcast here
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:45 AM
Dec 2022

Here in Germany, there are still laws on the books that outlaw Nazi-style propaganda. Plenty of people still try to get around it, of course, but a foreign TV channel attracts a little more scrutiny than some idiot who thinks his grandfather in the Waffen-SS got a raw deal.

PortTack

(32,813 posts)
7. Thing is..they are dead in the water! No up coming youth vote, saw a story here yesterday about
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:07 PM
Dec 2022

no big latino shift to the gqp, their old base is dying off.

This midterm proved a lot of things, but mostly…Americans are not buying the crap they are selling. This last election is as good as it’s going to get for them until they truly restructure.

PortTack

(32,813 posts)
54. Marc Elias, Neil Katyal, rob Reiner and several others, some who were there for the arguments
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:06 AM
Dec 2022

About moore v Harper say at least 6 other judges were unimpressed with the arguments in support of. They think the vote will be at least 6-3 or 7-2 against

Botany

(70,629 posts)
9. Sue them
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:12 PM
Dec 2022

Just because you read crazy ass shit on the internet and your breakfast is Capt. Crunch, vodka, and crystal
meth and you believe that stupid ass shit you do not have the right to stop another American from their 1st
amendment freedoms.

F.A. & F.O.




These Proud Boys, along with the Patriot Front, and White Lives Matters "friends" who stopped a children's Xmas
party that had some drag queens there are in for a world of hurt. Take their homes, their cars, their bass boats,
and their bank accounts because they claimed that children were being "groomed" to be LGBT fine let 'em prove it
in court.

hadEnuf

(2,222 posts)
43. We either do it that way or we WILL be fighting them in the streets.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:24 PM
Dec 2022

We've even got that piece of filth MGT talking like and representing these Nazis and insurrectionists.

Who's fucking country is this anyway? Enough is enough.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

ashredux

(2,612 posts)
14. Most all of the don't understand war....
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:26 PM
Dec 2022

A guerilla uprising at best that would be deadly, it would be put down quickly…most are just idiots

Baitball Blogger

(46,775 posts)
16. I feel terrible for young ladies who have to wade through the single scene, vetting
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:32 PM
Dec 2022

out these nuts. First, these boys probably won't be honest about their political leanings and second, more than a few young girls are probably going to face pregnancy and have to fear being turned in by these nutcases.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
18. Remember
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:35 PM
Dec 2022

A lot of women ratted these jerk offs out to the FBI because they bragged about it on dating apps lol

Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #16)

Baitball Blogger

(46,775 posts)
31. Could have sworn that some of them were using handkerchiefs
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:12 PM
Dec 2022

to cover their face bandit style. Some used ski face masks.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
40. No need! Free speech in A,Erica allows to to openly plan a coup! We just witnessed it!
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:49 PM
Dec 2022

and they doing it again, and again nothing can be done! Free speech!

How you liking it now, unfettered??

oldsoftie

(12,648 posts)
42. I was responding to a post about young women being able to tell what mindset men have
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:52 PM
Dec 2022

I'm saying that these trumpers are generally NOT hiding what they think.

Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #17)

Irish_Dem

(47,632 posts)
19. They live a life of privilege and comfort and want to burn it all down.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 07:38 PM
Dec 2022

Many people in the world would love to live in the US.

And these young people want to destroy it.

CitizenZero

(538 posts)
29. Civil War
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 08:45 PM
Dec 2022

When someone tells you who they are, you should believe them. If these Fascists say that they want a Civil War, we should take their word for it. We need an armed Counter-Insurgency Force should these nitwits actually take up arms. We also need to ensure that our Law Enforcement, National Guard, and Military are free of Fascists, since those all would be in the front lines if there were an actual armed Civil Conflict. Right now we are in a low grade Civil Conflict, but it could escalate and we should be prepared for it.

hadEnuf

(2,222 posts)
47. You are absolutely correct. We need to take them quite seriously.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:40 PM
Dec 2022

Also, the propaganda raping of the 1st Amendment isn't going to stop or just go away. The hate, lies and misinformation flooding the airwaves needs to be stopped or countered in a big way. Unfortunately, these propaganda outlets have had decades to take root, but some sort of effort would be good.

The Grand Illuminist

(1,341 posts)
67. It is time to go on the offense.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:44 AM
Dec 2022

I am tired of seeing the Democratic establishment and such always on the defensive with constant wrestling promos that would get them a job at WWE. True action is needed.

BidenRocks

(827 posts)
30. Sorry to say, but,
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:06 PM
Dec 2022

This is what you get when you don't show the victims.
With permission, show the kids with their heads blown off.
Maybe they won't be so quick to play dangerous games!
Show them the consequences and see if they want that to happen to their family.
Everyone has weapons, assholes.

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
33. Well, just don't expect them to be the ones who are fighting that war
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:17 PM
Dec 2022

because you can bet they all see themselves as its generals, sitting safely in bunkers, dining on prime rib followed by cigars and brandy like Churchill did, ordering the rest of us onto battlefields of their design.

I know the type all too well, I remember them on the far left, dreaming about their own type of revolution that would put them into the catbird seat of some nebulously socialist paradise that the rest of us would create for them. The few of those dickheads that I've bothered to look up are now GOP honchos, how predictable is that?

So spare me all these barely post adolescent and angry young white males who want to recreate the whole world in their own inchoate image. They've always been with us and the only good thing about them is that they always fail, mostly because they're loath to do any of the hard work or hard thinking, themselves.

I'm too fucking old and worldly wise to be particularly impressed.

GenThePerservering

(1,855 posts)
34. Oh, Butt-Plug living her best life!
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:24 PM
Dec 2022

She's *so* excited! Talkin' tough! Calling up that sweaty tacticool male base that so excites her! People are watching her! And paying way more attention than we need to.

Keep the thumb squarely on her, but don't amplify.

EarthFirst

(2,905 posts)
36. Gettin' real close to fuck their 1st Amendment protections...
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 09:29 PM
Dec 2022

The shit they’re calling for is everything that goes against a Constitutionally protected democratic society; so why the fuck should they be able to hide behind it?

This is some awfully dangerous shit that needs to be quelled immediately…

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
44. I agree, but how? Openly supporting a failed coup probably can't arrest, sad as that is.
Sun Dec 11, 2022, 10:27 PM
Dec 2022

Openly supporting the next coup attempt, what’s the holdup?

First amendment is supposed to be a shield, not a cloak for a sword.

Arrest someone for conspiracy to commit sedition, and test the limits of the First!?

jmowreader

(50,572 posts)
50. I've seen a picture of this Wax guy
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 12:02 AM
Dec 2022

He looks like someone who would cut and run if someone gave him a Ham Omelet MRE. These guys who claim they want “total war” would shit themselves if there was one.

Know how I know? Look at the pandemic. Half the Republicans in America dream of “SHTF” - shit hitting the fan. It’s like the collapse of society is all they dream about. And then when it did, what happened? We don’t wanna wear a mask. We don’t wanna get a shot. We’re gonna sue because church isn’t open. We’re gonna sue because the gun store is only open one day a week. We can’t do this. We can’t do that. We can only buy one pack of toilet paper at a time. The pandemic should have been their finest hour, but they acted like little boys pissed off that they have to let Johnny play with the fire truck now.

jmbar2

(4,912 posts)
52. Have any of them actually said what future they envision?
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 01:30 AM
Dec 2022

Right now there is some sort of market for crazy talkers.

The absence of some sort of vision or goals for their takeover plans makes me think that they are all competing for a spot in the crazy talk market, and not much else.

I don't know how big that market is, but it's getting pretty crowded with competitors.

Crowman2009

(2,505 posts)
53. More like young rapists club!
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 01:37 AM
Dec 2022

Given their leanings towards banning all abortion & contraception, and the fact that a lot of their alt-right idols on social media are rape advocates. They wonder why the vast majority of women on college campuses avoid them like a plague.

Kablooie

(18,645 posts)
55. Mark my words... She will be running for president.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:12 AM
Dec 2022

I’m convinced that she has presidential ambitions.
The fact that she is an ignorant buffoon who knows nothing about government will give her a big boost among the base. The more ignorant you are, the higher you rise in their estimation.

DFW

(54,469 posts)
56. They echo the man who made the phrase "total war" famous. Maybe they will follow in his footsteps.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:36 AM
Dec 2022

Around 1:40, the Young Republicans get their main inspiration:

niyad

(113,719 posts)
59. hey, traitor greene, you fascist idiot, those insurrectionists WERE armed. Guns.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 06:50 AM
Dec 2022

Knives. Flag poles. Bear spray.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
60. Only when they are bleeding out in the street from bullet wounds
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 08:09 AM
Dec 2022

will they realize, too late, that that real war is very, very different from playing video games in mom's basement.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
61. Fascist idiots.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:38 AM
Dec 2022

These pukes are out numbered and out gunned. Do you know how fast an Apache will take out yer mom's basement. You won't even see it, they will pop up shoot and pop down. Up, Down, Bang!
Do the addition stupid.

IronLionZion

(45,601 posts)
62. No political agenda so it's not terrorism
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:59 AM
Dec 2022

I hope someone comes along to use the mental illness excuse for why none of this is terrorism. There is one demographic of person in America highly prone to mental illness while the other demographics are terrorists and criminals.



JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,375 posts)
68. Ok, those photos might show Republicans, but ...
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:59 AM
Dec 2022

... but meybe they should call themselves "used-to-be-young Republicans", or "young-in-my-mind Republicans".

I would have pictured Young Republicans as being sort of, well, young.

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