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Zorro

(15,755 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:58 PM Dec 2022

Drought emergency declared for all Southern California

Source: Los Angeles Times

As California faces the prospect of a fourth consecutive dry year, officials with the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California have declared a regional drought emergency and called on water agencies to immediately reduce their use of all imported supplies.

The decision from the MWD’s board came about eight months after officials declared a similar emergency for 7 million people who are dependent on supplies from the State Water Project, a vast network of reservoirs, canals and dams that convey water from Northern California. Residents reliant on California’s other major supply — the Colorado River — had not been included in that emergency declaration.

“Conditions on the Colorado River are growing increasingly dire,” MWD chairwoman Gloria Gray said in a statement. “We simply cannot continue turning to that source to make up the difference in our limited state supplies. In addition, three years of California drought are drawing down our local storage.”

Officials said the call for conservation could become mandatory if drought conditions persist in the coming months, which some experts say is likely. By April, the MWD will consider allocating supplies to all of its 26 member agencies, requiring them to either cut their use of imported water or face steep additional fees.

Read more: https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2022-12-14/drought-emergency-declared-for-all-southern-california

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Drought emergency declared for all Southern California (Original Post) Zorro Dec 2022 OP
For all its progressiveness, I am surprised SOCAL hasn't advocated for xeriscaping FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #1
Discounts have been going on for years (there just isn't a lot of noise about it)... C Moon Dec 2022 #3
I'm surprised people there aren't doing it. It's everywhere in AZ. FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #19
MWDSC pays people to replace turf with drought-tolerant xeriscaping . . . Journeyman Dec 2022 #4
I'm surprised people there aren't taking them up on that offer. FlyingPiggy Dec 2022 #20
A little research into our many counties might be a good place to start Hekate Dec 2022 #6
See my post #17 below Hekate Dec 2022 #18
Here for the heartless mean-spirited comments. tenderfoot Dec 2022 #2
We should probably start an office pool, so to speak, on the different kinds of comments Hekate Dec 2022 #7
+ quaint Dec 2022 #8
I can hardly wait for the obligatory "pipe it over from the Great Lakes" comment Hekate Dec 2022 #10
Didn't I just hear about a huge snowstorm in the mountains? Frasier Balzov Dec 2022 #5
Not nearly enough. The snowpack has been terrible. A few days ago we got almost 3" of rain... Hekate Dec 2022 #9
As of today snowfall in the Sierras is 205% of normal for this date OnlinePoker Dec 2022 #12
I have a cousin there Warpy Dec 2022 #11
I bet that the golf courses at private country clubs with nice greenery are all open. Yavin4 Dec 2022 #13
You can do a lot with gray water, which is what I think the municipal (public) courses use Hekate Dec 2022 #15
Real estate listings provide a glimpse into conditions throughout the state not fooled Dec 2022 #14
Bad when native trees die. Igel Dec 2022 #23
Slightly sensationalist headline, as it is NOT "all" of Southern California NullTuples Dec 2022 #16
I'd have said "Southland". Igel Dec 2022 #24
11-8-22LA Times. "L.A. answers call as water use plummets. Residents saved 6 billion gallons/summer" Hekate Dec 2022 #17
Then there's this pfitz59 Dec 2022 #21
Thanks, Pfitz. For all of us average people, THIS is far, far above our pay grade... Hekate Dec 2022 #22

FlyingPiggy

(3,391 posts)
1. For all its progressiveness, I am surprised SOCAL hasn't advocated for xeriscaping
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 06:14 PM
Dec 2022

And low water hungry plants, etc.

C Moon

(12,225 posts)
3. Discounts have been going on for years (there just isn't a lot of noise about it)...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 06:34 PM
Dec 2022
https://dpw.lacounty.gov/wwd/web/Conservation/CashforGrass.aspx

The Los Angeles County Waterworks Districts offer customers a rebate for removing water-inefficient grass with drought-tolerant landscaping. The current rate is $1, with a minimum requirement of 500 sq. ft. and maximum of $5,000. The Rebate Program assists customers with reducing their overall water consumption. Please be advised that the rebate is not available until after completion of the drought conversion project.

FlyingPiggy

(3,391 posts)
19. I'm surprised people there aren't doing it. It's everywhere in AZ.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:38 AM
Dec 2022

When it comes to water, the cultures are so different. Xeriscaping, cisterns, drip systems…it’s just well accepted and ubiquitous.

Journeyman

(15,043 posts)
4. MWDSC pays people to replace turf with drought-tolerant xeriscaping . . .
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 06:40 PM
Dec 2022

At present, depending on location within Southern California, people are being paid between $1 and $3 (and sometimes more) per square foot to rip out lawns and replace it with native plants or drought-friendly landscaping. Hardscaping is limited, as it restricts the ability of water to leach into the aquifer. Additionally, the program offers free landscaping design assistance, with an extensive array of plants highlighted, as well as counseling on maintenance programs.

The district also offers rebates on water-saving irrigation -- both rotator sprinkler heads and drip irrigation -- as well as rain barrels, cisterns, soil moisture sensors, and SmarTimer, weather-based irrigation controllers.

They also offer rebates for water-efficient clothes dryers and toilets.

All this is available through every member agency throughout the Southern California region.

FlyingPiggy

(3,391 posts)
20. I'm surprised people there aren't taking them up on that offer.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 09:43 AM
Dec 2022

I think there’s just a big difference in culture when it comes to water conservation between SOCAL and AZ. For all of its political faults, racism, xenophobia, etc at least in AZ water conservation is deeply embedded. It’s everywhere. Whole neighborhoods are built w xeriscaping and drip systems. And it has been that way for decades.

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
9. Not nearly enough. The snowpack has been terrible. A few days ago we got almost 3" of rain...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:31 PM
Dec 2022

…in my coastal neighborhood (a neighbor has a little weather station) — it may have to do us for a long time to come. As much as we rejoiced, it was no drought-breaker. Our plants look happy, and we turned off the timed irrigation (which is already down to 2 days a week instead of 3) for the event.

OnlinePoker

(5,729 posts)
12. As of today snowfall in the Sierras is 205% of normal for this date
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:42 PM
Dec 2022

In the south, it's 47% of the April 1st average. This is great if it keeps up, but California is generally dry during La Nina years and this is the third winter in a row under La Nina.

https://cdec.water.ca.gov/reportapp/javareports?name=swccond.pdf

Warpy

(111,436 posts)
11. I have a cousin there
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:37 PM
Dec 2022

who keeps telling me how many times a week she can run the dishwasher, how often she can wash clothes, and how long showers are supposed to take. Even here in NM, none of that has gone on, although our water police are ferocious when it comes to leaks of any type.

I suppose her water board is going by metered water usage, sending out guidelines and telling people how many percentage points they need to reduce their monthly water use.

In the late 90s, when they announced that the aquifer here was starting to be measurably depleted, lawns disappeared overnight. They've since announced that the aquifer has slightly recovered, but those lawns never came back. I guess people didn't want to pour expensive water on them for the pleasure of mowing them in triple digit heat. I think they were looking for an excuse.

Southern CA isn't even the worst of it, conservation and more sensible agriculture will probably allow them to survive just fine. It's cities like Las Vegas and Phoenix that really have to worry. Both are going to have to get much smaller if they want to survive. Las Vegas is actually the better of the two, they've achieved a 40% water recycling rate.

No hate from me, just commiseration. The entire southwest has been in the kind of drought that finished off the Anasazi culture 1000 or so years ago, morphing it away from grandeur and into the Pueblos of today.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
13. I bet that the golf courses at private country clubs with nice greenery are all open.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:54 PM
Dec 2022

Cannot inconvenience the donor class.

not fooled

(5,805 posts)
14. Real estate listings provide a glimpse into conditions throughout the state
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 10:44 PM
Dec 2022

Photos including vegetation in Central Valley and Sierra Foothills acreage and properties show lots of stressed and dying native trees. There is a state-run site tracking wells that shows them going dry in many locations. I wonder how long many areas will have water. And, I wonder whether a lot of people are selling out before the water vanishes.

Igel

(35,387 posts)
23. Bad when native trees die.
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 06:16 PM
Dec 2022

Yelled at the local NPR station a few times as they said, "Another wonderful warm, sunny day!" as I drove to work and saw dead and dying trees by the road.

Central Valley die-off? Of course. Water table's been drained; it may take a while to equalize, but hydrostatics will not be thwarted.

Same with foothills; drain the lower unconfined aquifers and upland aquifers flow, as water does, down.

Live hard, die young.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
16. Slightly sensationalist headline, as it is NOT "all" of Southern California
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:11 AM
Dec 2022

In this map, the MWD is the area in yellow that hugs the coast surrounding the Los Angeles metro area down to San Diego.




It's the southernmost part of Ventura County, the southern half of Los Angeles County, all of Orange County, the western half of Riverside County, and down the coast to San Diego and the border. It does not extend eastwards to say, Coachella or Palm Springs.

Population-wise, on the other hand....it's probably is easily the southern half of the state!

Igel

(35,387 posts)
24. I'd have said "Southland".
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 06:19 PM
Dec 2022

Never regarded the hills west of LA as "Southland".

Perhaps "SoCal" is the new "Southland". Neither = "Southern California."

On the other hand, I've had people assume "Southland" included Georgia (not the country) as well as Blythe. Falsely and without basis in fact.

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
17. 11-8-22LA Times. "L.A. answers call as water use plummets. Residents saved 6 billion gallons/summer"
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:17 AM
Dec 2022
L.A. answers call as water use plummets: Residents saved 6 billion gallons during summer
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I saved the article because I knew this would come up again (and again). Sorry about the lack of a link, but I still don’t have that worked out.

But 6 billion gallons for Los Angeles sure shows SoCal is paying attention.

Hekate

(91,003 posts)
22. Thanks, Pfitz. For all of us average people, THIS is far, far above our pay grade...
Thu Dec 15, 2022, 01:37 PM
Dec 2022

I think it would have to be handled at a federal level.

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