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muriel_volestrangler

(101,412 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:19 AM Dec 2022

Cop15: historic deal struck to halt biodiversity loss by 2030

Source: The Guardian

Governments appear to have signed a once-in-a-decade deal to halt the destruction of Earth’s ecosystems, but the agreement seems to have been forced through by the Chinese president, ignoring the objections of some African states.

After more than four years of negotiations, repeated delays due to the Covid-19 pandemic and talks into the night on Sunday in Montreal, nearly 200 countries – but not the US or the Vatican – signed an agreement at the biodiversity Cop15, which was co-hosted by Canada and China, to put humanity on a path to living in harmony with nature by the middle of the century.

In an extraordinary plenary that began on Sunday evening and lasted for more than seven hours, countries wrangled over the final agreement. Finally, at about 3.30am local time on Monday, news broke that an agreement had been struck.

The Democratic Republic of the Congo’s negotiator appeared to block the final deal presented by China, telling the plenary that he could not support the agreement in its current form because it did not create a new fund for biodiversity, separate to the existing UN fund, the global environment facility (GEF). China, Brazil, Indonesia, India and Mexico are the largest recipients of GEF funding, and some African states wanted more money for conservation as part of the final deal.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/dec/19/cop15-historic-deal-signed-to-halt-biodiversity-loss-by-2030-aoe



We'll see what the actual effects are, but not for some time, I think.
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Cop15: historic deal struck to halt biodiversity loss by 2030 (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 OP
Call me a bit skeptical... purr-rat beauty Dec 2022 #1
That's nice. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #2
Also remember, all of the "agreements" are non-binding. Javaman Dec 2022 #3
Actions speak louder... 2naSalit Dec 2022 #4
Exactly Javaman Dec 2022 #5
Right there with you. 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6
You can and should be doing this work with your own home, at your work places, schools, and parks Botany Dec 2022 #7
'kill your lawn' has been my rallying cry since i started my little farm. mopinko Dec 2022 #10
Wonderful! America once again the outcast, tho. But won't stop from criticizing the agreement Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #8
I agree AoA Esra Star Dec 2022 #11
Will it be as effective as all the carbon emission treaties so far? NickB79 Dec 2022 #9

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
1. Call me a bit skeptical...
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:36 AM
Dec 2022

to start this we will have to end all deforestation ESPECIALLY the Amazon and other major carbon sinks and habitats. That would be the starting promise in my eyes. I would think ending pleasure cruises and oil drilling in the ocean would come second. Those are two the most bio-diverse habitats on this planet.

will they do that?

NO

2naSalit

(86,939 posts)
2. That's nice.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 07:52 AM
Dec 2022

Gee, I wonder when they will get past formalities and actually fucking DO something. We're nearly four years into that ten year window after which there will be no saving our species and most others.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
3. Also remember, all of the "agreements" are non-binding.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 09:46 AM
Dec 2022

we've see these types of agreements come and go and the earth continues to heat up.

also, this agreement really won't have the effect that these nations think it will have. just about all climate scientists worth their salt have agreed that 2.5 rise is baked in.

until I see real meaningful commitments from not just the US and Europe but from China and India, nothing will change.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
5. Exactly
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 10:01 AM
Dec 2022

and given that we have a war in Europe and China can't figure out it's covid issue, i don't have much hope right now.

mopinko

(70,364 posts)
10. 'kill your lawn' has been my rallying cry since i started my little farm.
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 02:14 PM
Dec 2022

sir david attenborough says rewilding can save us. if we just kept our mitts off 30% of the planet, the balance would tip.
i believe scotland is close to that, uk as a whole well on the way.

i have been harassed by the city of chgo over my ‘weeds’, among other things, every damn year.
every year the streets and san super gets a science lesson, and every year proves it goes in 1 ear and out the other.
muni elects are coming up, and i’m workin the challenger in my ward to get climate change back on the front burner, like it was in the daley years.
so much low hanging fruit.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
8. Wonderful! America once again the outcast, tho. But won't stop from criticizing the agreement
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 11:06 AM
Dec 2022

forever, much like the international court of Justice.

Beginning to think pessimism outweighs optimism on DU!?

Just yesterday there appeared to be no hope according this very same media outlet. Journos don’t always get it right, I have discovered!

The Vatican objected? What’s the Pope been smoking?

NickB79

(19,299 posts)
9. Will it be as effective as all the carbon emission treaties so far?
Mon Dec 19, 2022, 12:12 PM
Dec 2022

We just high record coal consumption, methane levels, and CO2 levels in 2022.

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