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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,398 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:25 PM Dec 2022

Lindsey Graham wanted to use credit card company technology to throw out absentee ballots in Georgia

Source: Raw Story

In testimony given to the Jan. 6 committee this Tuesday, Georgia's secretary of state. Brad Raffensperger was questioned over Sen. Lindsey Graham's phone call to him back in November of 2020, where he suggested rejecting mail-in votes in the presidential election from counties with high rates of questionable signatures.

Graham’s phone calls to Raffensperger were followed weeks later by Donald Trump, who asked Raffensperger to “find” 11,780 votes to secure the 2020 election for him.

Raffensperger told the committee that Graham thought credit card companies had technology that Georgia could use to assist with signature matching on ballots in Fulton County, saying that Graham suggested using the technology to go through "all 150,000 absentee ballots very quickly using a machine process."

Raffensperger testified that the call made him "uncomfortable" because he "didn't know where this was going to lead."

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lindsey-graham-wanted-to-use-credit-card-company-technology-to-throw-out-absentee-ballots-in-georgia/ar-AA15Ia7Y



Maybe you can be TFG's cell mate Lindsey.
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Lindsey Graham wanted to use credit card company technology to throw out absentee ballots in Georgia (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP
Machine process to help with signature matching? LiberalFighter Dec 2022 #1
or absentee ballot validation either nt yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #10
Remember signatures are one of the key tools the election deniers want to use to discount ballots... usaf-vet Dec 2022 #22
Graham should resign immediately! Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #2
++++++++++++++++++++!!! 2naSalit Dec 2022 #6
The things most republicans do would force a Democrat to resign liberal N proud Dec 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #18
Where does Graham fit into this investigation? Will there be consequences? Deuxcents Dec 2022 #3
Remember he fought the subpoena in State and Federal Court SCantiGOP Dec 2022 #15
Of course not oswaldactedalone Dec 2022 #4
Funny, but credit card companies readily accept my unreadable signature using my finger sinkingfeeling Dec 2022 #5
+1 2naSalit Dec 2022 #7
so does our e-pollbook techology yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #11
Hubby laughs about "plausible deniablity" of his scrawl Maeve Dec 2022 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #27
Mail-in votes aka absentee votes are already automatically matched and verified as belonging ... Botany Dec 2022 #8
That is frightening HariSeldon Dec 2022 #16
I live in WA state... chwaliszewski Dec 2022 #21
To be clear, "signature matching" means this: dchill Dec 2022 #9
we do not register by party so ballot board has NO yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #13
The signature verification laws were put in place to suppress... dchill Dec 2022 #14
I don't disagree, but when the ballots are being yellowdogintexas Dec 2022 #35
Lindsay didn't think of this by himself. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #20
I'll be writing to Graham in the morning about this, in the morning tinymontgomery Dec 2022 #23
Fuck Lindsey Graham Blue Owl Dec 2022 #25
All this blatant cheating by Repughs. They don't even try to hide it. ificandream Dec 2022 #28
Here's a tip for all election officials: Do not take calls from out of state officials after an ZonkerHarris Dec 2022 #29
I found the 11,780 votes. pwb Dec 2022 #30
Signatures change; People have strokes and have to switch to other hand for writing; arthritis in No Vested Interest Dec 2022 #31
Lock him up. BumRushDaShow Dec 2022 #32
Wish old Lindsey had been at least a little concerned over Mark Meadows and his Vinca Dec 2022 #33
One word: PSEUDOSCIENCE rlegro Dec 2022 #34

usaf-vet

(6,232 posts)
22. Remember signatures are one of the key tools the election deniers want to use to discount ballots...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:46 PM
Dec 2022

.... I hope I'm not the only one that sees and hears the right-wing election deniers push schools to cut teaching cursive writing skills from their curriculum.

Suppose the next generation of voters cannot sign their name confidently and repeatedly. Won't that be yet another voter suppression tool for the right-wingers to use to deny legitimate votes?

When you hear the clamor to suppress the teaching of cursive writing skills, ASK YOURSELF WHY!

Remember, they (right-wingers, MAGA cults) are systematically trying to disassemble our Democracy brick by brick which is how you weaken and destroy a sound foundation.

Bluethroughu

(5,204 posts)
2. Graham should resign immediately!
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:29 PM
Dec 2022

He should be in prison for electioneering and intimidating state officals to break the law AND it's not even HIS state.

Jail time is the only way these criminals are going to learn to be decent citizens.

liberal N proud

(60,351 posts)
12. The things most republicans do would force a Democrat to resign
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:09 PM
Dec 2022

Republicans just let it pass while they would condemn a Democratic official.
The republican base is the same.

Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #2)

SCantiGOP

(13,875 posts)
15. Remember he fought the subpoena in State and Federal Court
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:30 PM
Dec 2022

He did not want to appear. I don't doubt his testimony was a combination of "I do not recall" and "The Fifth."

sinkingfeeling

(51,490 posts)
5. Funny, but credit card companies readily accept my unreadable signature using my finger
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:39 PM
Dec 2022

on a touch pad. I couldn't even verify it's my signature

yellowdogintexas

(22,288 posts)
11. so does our e-pollbook techology
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:07 PM
Dec 2022

seriously those signatures the voters put on there are just ludicrous. I have to initial it to release the file so the secret code access can be printed out for the voter. INitials are much easier than a signature

Maeve

(42,305 posts)
19. Hubby laughs about "plausible deniablity" of his scrawl
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:28 PM
Dec 2022

Lord love a duck, I couldn't recognize my own signature, but they accept it every time....What. An. Idgit.

Response to Maeve (Reply #19)

Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #5)

Botany

(70,635 posts)
8. Mail-in votes aka absentee votes are already automatically matched and verified as belonging ...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:44 PM
Dec 2022

.... to a registered voter via a bar code on the ballot that the voter sends back in as their vote
in the election. At least that is the case in OH and I have no doubt that is the way it is in Georgia.

HariSeldon

(458 posts)
16. That is frightening
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:34 PM
Dec 2022

Those ballots are not eligible to be considered secret ballots, then, as anyone who has access to the ballot and the list can determine the actual, specific votes of each and every mail-in voter.

In Washington State, where mail in voting has been the rule for years, the ballot does not indicate at all who voted it (and voters are cautioned not to make any identifying marks on the ballot). To return the ballot, it is sealed in a security envelope which is placed inside a voter-signed outer envelope addressed for mailing. When received by the county auditor, the signature on the outer envelope is matched against the voter file and, if it matches, the security envelope is bagged/boxed with other verified ballots and forwarded to the counting team. The counting team should never see a ballot that is still associated with its outer, signed envelope, nor should the signature verifiers ever see a ballot outside its security envelope. I'm sure errors (especially by voters) do occur, but the system is designed to allow the actual votes to be secret while assuring extra votes are not cast.

chwaliszewski

(1,514 posts)
21. I live in WA state...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:45 PM
Dec 2022

and this past election, I received a letter stating that my signature did not match the one they had on file and had 3 weeks to correct it at one of their offices. Showed up, with ID in hand, and signed a form for them to put on file. They said it did not match the one they had but added it to their records so that either one of them would be a match. Just to be safe, I signed my voting card the same way I had just signed their form so this wouldn't be a problem in the future.

My point here is the mail-in ballot system works just fine. If some states don't like it, then the least they can do is have an Election Week instead of an Election Day.

dchill

(38,592 posts)
9. To be clear, "signature matching" means this:
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 09:47 PM
Dec 2022

Any two Republican signatures match; NO two Democratic signatures match. It ain't rocket science!

yellowdogintexas

(22,288 posts)
13. we do not register by party so ballot board has NO
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:10 PM
Dec 2022

clue what party affiliation is involved.

Remember the signature verification is only using the signature on the outside of the envelope. The actual ballot is inside another envelope which is scanned on Election Day

Even in a state where voters register by party, ballot board checkers have no idea how anyone has voted. Voter preferences remain sealed until they are scanned.

dchill

(38,592 posts)
14. The signature verification laws were put in place to suppress...
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 10:26 PM
Dec 2022

...the vote in Democratic districts. I stand by my fairly satirical comments.

yellowdogintexas

(22,288 posts)
35. I don't disagree, but when the ballots are being
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 05:23 PM
Dec 2022

verified by the ballot board, there is no way the screeners can know how that voter voted or what party they prefer.

Irish_Dem

(47,697 posts)
17. Lindsay didn't think of this by himself.
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:01 PM
Dec 2022

So the GOP is talking about ways to use technology and large data bases to steal elections.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #17)

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
23. I'll be writing to Graham in the morning about this, in the morning
Tue Dec 27, 2022, 11:52 PM
Dec 2022

I'll be writing to Graham in the morning about this, in the morning since he's my crooked senator.

pwb

(11,303 posts)
30. I found the 11,780 votes.
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:46 AM
Dec 2022

Trump killed them with his Covid Hoax shit. He defeated himself. What a dumb fuck.

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
31. Signatures change; People have strokes and have to switch to other hand for writing; arthritis in
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 03:55 AM
Dec 2022

hand or wrist changes signatures. Younger voters may not be using cursive writing but print their names instead.
Family lost use of her hand and arm because of a stroke. She now prints her name with other hand.

Signature matching is not an exact science.

Vinca

(50,323 posts)
33. Wish old Lindsey had been at least a little concerned over Mark Meadows and his
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:25 AM
Dec 2022

never seen trailer in the sticks that became his address for voting. Or the Trumpers who used the dead relative's mail-in ballots to cast more than one vote. Every time you hear about an arrest re voting, it's a Republican involved.

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