Chinese Gate-Crashers at U.S. Bases Spark Espionage Concerns Washington has tracked about 100 incide

[oldsoftie]

Source: WSJ

WASHINGTON—Chinese nationals, sometimes posing as tourists, have accessed military bases and other sensitive sites in the U.S. as many as 100 times in recent years, according to U.S. officials, who describe the incidents as a potential espionage threat.

The Defense Department, FBI and other agencies held a review last year to try to limit these incidents, which involve people whom officials have dubbed gate-crashers because of their attempts—either by accident or intentionally—to get onto U.S. military bases and other installations without proper authorization. They range from Chinese nationals found crossing into a U.S. missile range in New Mexico to what appeared to be scuba divers swimming in murky waters near a U.S. government rocket-launch site in Florida.

The incidents, which U.S. officials describe as a form of espionage, appear designed to test security practices at U.S. military installations and other federal sites. Officials familiar with the practice say the individuals are typically Chinese nationals pressed into service and required to report back to the Chinese government.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/chinese-gate-crashers-at-u-s-bases-spark-espionage-concerns-cdef8187

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Need to crack down on tis shit. NONE of these incidents are "accidents". Jail time is needed at the very least. China is probing everything they can.

[2naSalit]

1. Well...

For several years they were able to just walk right in to places like Maga Laga and grab whatever info they chose from the bathrooms and such.

[jimfields33]

3. The subject is military bases not a hotel.

I’d say the military bases are worse.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

2. This unsourced by name article appears to be designed to stir up anti China tripe, 100 times or

more in recent years….according to unnamed official sources.

Murdocks rags are all the same…same agenda…hate everything! Fear all!

Suspect hundreds of nations have done the same military base tourism…awesome firepower…the Pentagon is very proud of its horde of weapons and eager to show off to the world…almost all of it is for sale!

Although a giant white balloon with no transmitters might be better!?

[jaxexpat]

5. It's goddamned propaganda, plain and simple.

If for no other reason than it's a one off "emergency" report which provokes fear and, its next step, hatred for an "other".

The US media, especially, the interwebs is at least half propaganda of one kind or another. Sun rose in east this am.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

20. The Earth IS flat, a giant white balloon with no transmitters is spying on USA, lol!

And Nazis are aok, jailing women over medical issues is mandatory, etc.…the latest is. coups are not of concern if only attempted and miserably failed!…The American media is propaganda perfected through many wars and many both sides equal elections.

Remember The Dixie Chicks!

[oldsoftie]

9. I wish we could "rec' individual posts.

[oldsoftie]

8. Here's a "named source' for you from an incident in May; ignore it like all the others.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/05/31/suspected-chinese-spies-posing-as-tourists-discovered-in-alaska/70260712007/

[Torchlight]

10. You make many unsupported assertions.

I can certainly understand your confusion over balloons, they can be complex.

[Historic NY]

4. a least two at Mara Lara Ding Dong

[Texin]

11. It's puzzling to me as to why they're being admitted inside the gates.

I realize there some bases/installations where there's a small civilian component who come and got, but they've usually been issued passes and must show ID or their clearance cards. Why would military personnel at the gates allow random people of any description within the checkpoints?

[Hieronymus Phact]

12. It's not like you think

I used to be a civilian contractor. There is a huge civilian population that comes and goes daily from all sorts of military bases. From electricians and other construction workers, to computer programmers, IT Support staff, scientists, secretaries etc. Then there is the civilian population of spouses and children living on post in residential areas, complete with nice suburban neighborhoods and school bus service. These bases have extensive recreational facilities: golf courses, swimming pools, rec halls, even skeet shooting ranges, that are all open to the public. -as long as you go through the security system. They also have hotels for service people.
Before 9/11 you could just drive on to many bases without even a checkpoint. I was working on a base when the towers and Pentagon were attacked, and everything changed.
They have their own fast food places, gas stations, and shopping beyond the simple PX, all with a civilian workforce. The Pentagon has a shopping mall inside. Bases have their own police and fire departments. It's like a small self-contained city.

[COL Mustard]

15. Yes, the Pentagon has its own shopping area and drugstore and gym

But they are not open to the public. You can tour the building, but it's guided and controlled, and as far as I know there's no opportunity for tourists to shop.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

23. I can go to a McDonald's on a base...McFear is not sold there!

[COL Mustard]

25. If you have base access, yes, you can use the facilities that are open to the public

The Pentagon hasn't been open to the public since long before 9/11. The first time I went in, for a job interview, I used my Reserve ID card to get in, and didn't need a visitor badge. You certainly can't do that now.

[TheBlackAdder]

16. Before 9/11, my family used to easily go on Joint Base McGuire for children's birthday parties.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

21. Th whole article is a puzzle with a few pieces intentionally missing...Murdocks signature brand!

[dalton99a]

13. Kick

https://archive.ph/Hk3ts

[dalton99a]

14. Suspected Chinese spies, disguised as tourists, tried to infiltrate Alaskan military bases

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/05/31/suspected-chinese-spies-posing-as-tourists-discovered-in-alaska/70260712007/

Suspected Chinese spies, disguised as tourists, tried to infiltrate Alaskan military bases
Tom Vanden Brook
USA TODAY

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Chinese citizens posing as tourists but suspected of being spies have made several attempts in recent years to gain access to military facilities in this vast state studded with sensitive bases, according to U.S. officials.

In one incident, a vehicle with Chinese citizens blew past a security checkpoint at Fort Wainwright in Fairbanks, several soldiers told USA TODAY. The vehicle was eventually stopped, and a search found a drone inside the vehicle. The occupants claimed they were tourists who had gotten lost.

Many of the encounters have been chalked up to innocent mistakes by foreign visitors intent on viewing the northern lights and other attractions in Alaska, officials say. Other attempts to enter U.S. military bases, however, seem to be probes to learn about U.S. military capabilities in Alaska, according to multiple soldiers familiar with the incidents but who were not authorized to speak publicly about them.

Not all who appear to be tourists in Alaska, are, in fact tourists, one Army officer said. Instead, they are foreign spies.

...

[Alexander Of Assyria]

22. Speculation versus evidence, liberals prefer one over the other...and so does logic!

Murdock does not!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. I know you won't see this because you have me on ignore, or you just won't answer,

but this is for those that can see this, so here goes,

The one constant with you and a couple of other DU members is that any time a negative thread or post is rendered here, concerning China, you automatically either jump to China's defense or you attempt to deflect from Chinese aggression by blaming the US or NATO for all the world's problems.

Makes one go, Hmmmm, what is your true agenda here with regards to China, and for that matter, all the other tyrant leaders of nations opposed to the US, you do seem to support them over the US.

So, be honest, what is your true agenda here?

[yaesu]

17. There is very little to be gained sneaking on US bases as China knows

pretty much everything about our military equipment and tactics. What we should be concerned about is using China made products in anything electronic, US based tech and manufacturing only for a secure future.

[oldsoftie]

18. I wish SOMEONE in Congress would sponsor a bill to STOP that.

Lets see who'd vote NO on a clean bill to stop getting any security items or parts from China.

[orangecrush]

19. +1

[2live is 2fly]

31. I had to chuckle at the irony of the last part of your last sentence, seeing as how Yaesu is a

Japanese firm (and a district in Tokyo) famous for manufacturing great Ham/Communications radio gear.

[mahina]

24. I thought crashing gates at military installations get you arrested

No?

[Kennah]

26. Or shot on site

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. Yep.

When I did 2 years as a Marine Police Officer, we were told that anyone running the security gate and refusing to stop was to be treated as a hostile entity and to use force up to and including lethal force.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

29. Meaning the article from WSJ might be slightly exaggerated...logic slays the speculation.

[Torchlight]

30. Speculating the existence of an exaggeration?

Does that not also 'slay logic?'