Judge who said rape victim should have 'put up a fight' is rebuked
Source: LA Times
The state agency that monitors judicial misconduct has publicly admonished an Orange County judge, saying his remarks in a sexual assault case breached judicial ethics and created an impression of bias against the victim.
At a June 2008 sentencing hearing, Superior Court Judge Derek G. Johnson denied a prosecutors call to impose a 16-year prison term on Metin Gurel, who had been convicted of rape, forcible oral copulation, domestic battery, stalking and making threats against his former live-in girlfriend.
Johnson decided to impose a six-year sentence.
Im not a gynecologist, but I can tell you something, the judge said, according to documents released Thursday. If someone doesnt want to have sexual intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless a lot of damage in inflicted, and we heard nothing about that in this case.
Read more: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/12/judge-slammed-for-outdated-and-biased-remarks-on-rape.html
The article says it took four year for them find out about this..why the hell didn't anyone report this sooner? And why isn't his ass being disbarred?
GiaGiovanni
(1,247 posts)Amazing how ignorance can have serious consequences
Edited to remove a poor singer from the mix.
HankyDub
(246 posts)Clay is the singer.
I'll go change that. Poor Clay.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)I guess he did not feel it was a legitimate rape.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)BS!
This is Scalia mentality judicial conduct. Pull him off the bench and disbar the guy.
HankyDub
(246 posts)I don't know where these guys are getting the idea that women's bodies have an "off" switch that "shuts the body down."
Skittles
(153,310 posts)that is the number one requirement for men to have those, er, "ideas"
Bozita
(26,955 posts)He creates his own reality and makes his judgments based on his very own fictitious world?
Judi Lynn
(160,682 posts)Calif. judge says victims' body can prevent rape
(AP) 2 hours ago
SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) A Southern California judge is being publicly admonished for saying a rape victim "didn't put up a fight" during her assault and that if someone doesn't want sexual intercourse, the body "will not permit that to happen."
The California Commission on Judicial Performance voted 10-0 to impose a public admonishment Thursday, saying Superior Court Judge Derek Johnson's comments were inappropriate and a breach of judicial ethics.
"In the commission's view, the judge's remarks reflected outdated, biased and insensitive views about sexual assault victims who do not 'put up a fight.' Such comments cannot help but diminish public confidence and trust in the impartiality of the judiciary," wrote Lawrence J. Simi, the commission's chairman.
Johnson made the comments in the case of a man who threatened to mutilate the face and genitals of his ex-girlfriend with a heated screwdriver, beat her with a metal baton and made other violent threats before committing rape, forced oral copulation, and other crimes.
~snip~
Johnson said he believed the prosecutor's request of a 16-year sentence was not authorized by law. Johnson sentenced the rapist to six years instead, saying that's what the case was "worth."
More:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hNWcej44GD13f7vVSxr5S9soPh9Q?docId=b30bca62118c48cb9ec994d9b72f8e8a
alittlelark
(18,891 posts)POS
progressoid
(50,020 posts)Hell, he breached ALL ethics.
What an ass.
Kablooie
(18,647 posts)Or was that a typo.
Maybe he was repuked.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)concentration camps to see at what level of abuse a woman could not concieve despite being raped. Remember we have a thread here somewhere of the bunker in SoCal intended for Adolf to hide away in, it seemed almost like a prank. Also we've had threads of NeoNazis running for office. tIt really is the recycling of the 1930s, as if it is some kind of natural repetition. This guy needs to be disbarred and investigated for every other case he rule upon.
Justin_Beach
(111 posts)It's the heart of Reagan country ... they may elect him to congress over this.
cecilfirefox
(784 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...so they don't lose their own conservatard credentials. So they make his ass so toxic that every defense attorney that faces him can win appeals just by claiming the bias they just certified his is guilty of. They're hoping he'll fire himself.
- Man and woman up, dammit! Stand for something......
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ashling
(25,771 posts)this jurist needs to have his ignorant misogynistic ass removed from the bench.
And then the bench and judges chambers need to be steam cleaned
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Who knew that no one can be raped because if you don't want anything in your entrances/exits there's a magic invisible door with a deadbolt that the body all by itself slams shut and locks against intrusion! I'd love this guy to explain how all his prostate exams were only physically accomplished because he was sexually aroused... well, by his own words if he wasn't than his magic invisible door would have instantly been slammed shut against such an intrusion.
This asshole needs to be fired and every sexual assault/rape case he ever judged be re-examined. I seriously cannot believe how anyone can even think something so totally absurd much less say it and actually use it to rule in judgment.
Nobody but nobody is this stupid. Period. These insane excuses are purely victim blaming and always were. Even neanderthals new they had no magic doors on any of their entrances/exits, and nobody but nobody is fooled by this outrageously colossal nuttery. It's nothing but the most utterly ridiculous of all victim blaming excuses.
niyad
(113,961 posts)unit.
can you imagine what he was like in those situations?
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Why is it that we don't have three arms when a double face palm just isn't enough???
And all he got was a damn finger wag for this assholery.
niyad
(113,961 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)It's most likely a reflection of their own sex lives. If you think your wife should submit to your every sexual whim then you believe raping her is OK. Thus rape is non-existent.
Do you follow the logic? It's kinda hard to do as a woman because we have only half the brain men have and it's usually non-functional anyway.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Crow73
(257 posts)Judges are people too. Which means that, on occasion, they can exercise compassion and/or display a sense of humor.
Judge Derek G. Johnson of the Orange County (Calif.) Superior Court did one or both of those when faced with an inmate's renewed request for "double-portion kosher meals" while incarcerated in the County's Theo Lacy jail. As reported by the Orange County Register (via the ABA Journal), the judge initially signed off on the request in April. But county officials weren't having it; kosher food is apparently more expensive than salami (though the two are not mutually exclusive, as any kid from New York knows).
When questioned, the inmate, Malcolm Alarmo King, candidly admitted that he wasn't Jewish. He just didn't think the oft-served salami sandwiches were healthy enough, and needed more calories to "maintain his physique." Thus, when asked by jail officials about his religion, he replied that he was an adherent of "Healthism."
King then appeared before Johnson for sentencing, and pleaded guilty to one of the counts against him. Since he realized he would be spending more time on the inside, he renewed his request for the double-kosher meals. The judge, realizing that "Healthism" wasn't gonna fly, called counsel to the bench and asked what religion he could put down on the necessary paperwork to legitimize King's meal choice.
King's lawyer, Fred Thiagarajah, suggested Festivus. Festivus, of course, is not a religion, per se, but rather the holiday made famous by the Costanza family on one of the undisputably greatest episodes of Seinfeld ever produced.
Despite the county attorney's "airing of grievances," Festivus was a good enough answer for Johnson, and he again ordered that King was to be given non-salami meals. According to The Associated Press, the Sheriff's Department was, eventually, able to get the judge's order overturned.
So score one for Frank Costanza. King may need to start thinking about some feats of strength pretty quick, as he's been transferred to federal custody and is awaiting deportation.
http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2010/12/california-judge-cites-festivus-to-justify-inmates-special-meals.html
niyad
(113,961 posts)meal, but is an ignorant, woman-hating monster when it comes to rape. do you honestly think that balances the scales? or did you forget the sarcasm thingy?
skypilot
(8,854 posts)was just trying to point up the fact that this judge is a dumbass--to say the least. The first line in the post about judges being people and exercising compassion and all is actually the first line of the article that Crow73 links to.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,414 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Let's put the judge's theory that to the test and I'm certain this judge will be eager to volunteer to prove his theory:
Judge's Theory:
Experiment:
Judge's Anticipated Findings:
Experiment Findings:
???
question everything
(47,596 posts)I wonder whether the rapist is now out of jail for "good behavior."
http://www.ocweekly.com/2008-10-30/news/moxley-confidential/#livefyre
After the verdicts, Superior Court Judge Derek G. Johnson not only dismissed the sentencing request by prosecutors, but he also mocked the crime in open court by calling it a technical rape.
To treat this case like the rape cases that we hear about is an insult to victims of rape, Johnson said moments after declining to punish Gurel on six of the seven guilty verdicts. I think it trivializes rape.
Johnson, who once worked as a sex-crimes prosecutor, gave Gurel 251 days pre-prison credit for time served in the Orange County Jail and handed him a relatively soft six-year sentence.
okaawhatever
(9,479 posts)happen, as in, he never penetrated her because her magic shield should have come down and stopped it. What the judge said was, "if someone doesn't want to have intercourse, the body shuts down. The body will not permit that to happen unless A LOT OF DAMAGE IS INFLICTED, AND WE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THAT IN THIS CASE." I think what he was referring to was that if there is no excitement on the woman's part (no lube), then the rapist would have to use alot more force for penetration, causing bruises, tears etc. Now, I'm not for a second saying he was correct. He should be removed from the bench. But, I think we need to shift the focus of the discussion to the idea that a judge would use no vaginal tearing/bruising as a means to determine whether or not a rape actually occured. It seems from his ruling that is the difference between real rape, and "technical rape." If he believes this, how many other judges, cops, prosecutors etc. believe this crap also? It's become increasingly clear lately that alot of individuals are grossly misinformed about rape. Maybe it's time we take a harder look at the information that's out there and try to enlighten the public.
niyad
(113,961 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:31 AM - Edit history (1)
is the nonsense that the reichwing pukes spew. this isn't misinformation, this is woman-hating, blame the victim crap.
welcome to DU
okaawhatever
(9,479 posts)the judge feels that rape where the woman isn't entirely mutilated is a different "level" of rape. Like misdemeanor rape or something. What a loser. But again, how many idiots believe that sort of thing? And how many of those idiots are lawmakers (we know there was atleast one) and how many are cops, judges, pastors, etc?
daleo
(21,317 posts)If there are no visible scars or broken bones.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)A rape apologist.
octothorpe
(962 posts)Unless I'm missing something. Where did he/she give any excuse for rape? To me, it seems the poster was merely pointing out the flawed logic of the judge...
Hosnon
(7,800 posts)It's hard enough to have an honest conversation on this website without posts like yours.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)KatyMan
(4,220 posts)happened in blue California. Thought this only happened in red states.