Majority of Israelis oppose a unilateral strike on Iran nuclear program

[MindMover]

Source: The Christian Science Monitor

Two polls that came out this week show that as many as two-thirds of Israelis support a strike on Iran nuclear sites even without US support – a step the prime minister has threatened.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spent much of his visit to the US this week defending the Jewish state’s right to launch a preemptive strike on Iran's nuclear program. Such a move is necessary to block the emergence of what he says is an existential threat.

But it seems that a majority of Israelis oppose a strike without US backing, according to two public opinion surveys released after the conclusion of the White House summit with President Obama on March 5.

The polls highlight an apparent gap between official rhetoric and popular sentiment that may give Mr. Netanyahu pause: Even though Israel has an established history of unilateral attacks, it seems that there is considerable public anxiety about pursuing the same course of action in the case of Iran.

Read more: http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2012/0308/Majority-of-Israelis-oppose-a-unilateral-strike-on-Iran-nuclear-program?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fworld+%28Christian+Science+Monitor+%7C+Wor

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Interesting that I just heard that the Iranian Ayatollah has just given President Obama praise for saying there is still time to negotiate a peaceful settlement......

[Comrade Grumpy]

1. So they are not insane. Why do they keep electing leaders who are?

[MindMover]

2. We have done that twice in my lifetime......

[Behind the Aegis]

3. Bush.

[Alexander]

11. Not elected.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. Yes he was.

[EFerrari]

16. Show me the votes. n/t

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Read it for yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004

[Alexander]

19. Please. Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 were clear cases of fraud.

Bush was not elected president either time.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. According to you. Others, accept 2004 as a win.

But, don't like to accept Bush...then Gingrich, Inhofe, Bush Sr., and the list continues of "insane" leaders the US have elected.

[Alexander]

23. Others, meaning people who aren't paying attention.

Gingrich and Inhofe were never elected nationwide, and Bush Sr. did not even come close to the level of insanity that Bush Jr. did.

Nice try.

[Behind the Aegis]

24. Please read the first comment and stop moving goalposts.

I would say "nice try" on your part, but it really wasn't, just parsing for no reason.

[Alexander]

25. I didn't move any goalposts. I read every single comment, thanks anyway.

"So they are not insane. Why do they keep electing leaders who are?" was clearly referring to leaders of the country, just as you and I were.

You are the one who moved goalposts by referring to people like Gingrich and Inhofe, after I correctly pointed out to you that Bush Jr. was not legitimately elected. Neither Gingrich nor Inhofe were leaders of the United States.

Anyway, I think you and I can agree that it's a good thing - and a testament to Israel's secure and superior voting systems - that Israel, unlike the United States, has not had a stolen nationwide election in the past 12 years.

As for the rest, I think we can agree to disagree. Have a good evening.

[Behind the Aegis]

26. Thay are leaders of the country, where you "believe" or not.

[Alexander]

27. If you're moving the goalposts that far, there's no shortage of insane people in the Knesset.

Again, the only one moving goalposts in this conversation is you.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. You did the lifting.

And, I never said there was no shortage of insane people in the Knesset. I mean, wouldn't they be considered leaders? The first post did NOT specify leader OF the country, just leaders. I chose one of the most noteable wackjobs elected in the US.

[Alexander]

29. Nonsense. I pointed out you were incorrect and you doubled down.

A common enough phenomenon with Internet forums - now you have joined the ranks of people who cannot admit when they are wrong.

"And, I never said there was no shortage of insane people in the Knesset. I mean, wouldn't they be considered leaders?"

No, random members of a country's legislature are not considered leaders. A Prime Minister or President, on the other hand, is. It's pretty obvious "leaders" meant leaders of the country, at least until you moved the goalposts.

"I chose one of the most noteable wackjobs elected in the US."

No, you chose someone who had to steal both elections he "won". Even if you accept Ohio in 2004 - and if you've been paying attention you wouldn't - without the obvious fraud in Florida in 2000, Bush would never have been in a position to do any damage.

[Behind the Aegis]

30. The "nonsense" is all yours for splitting hairs and moving goalposts.

Oh, and the whole "Bush wasn't elected in 2004" nonsense.

[Alexander]

31. You've got nothing. You just can't admit it.

"Oh, and the whole "Bush wasn't elected in 2004" nonsense."

I'm sorry you were apparently living under a rock while things like electronic voting, Diebold, ES&S, etc. were being discussed. I really am.

[Behind the Aegis]

32. No, you just got nothing but crap conspiracy. Sorry about that.

[Alexander]

33. So the Congress objecting to counting Ohio's electoral votes in 2004 was a "crap conspiracy"?

Nice of you to slander elected Democrats like Barbara Boxer.

I thought we were all on the same side here, but apparently you have other ideas.

Since Wikipedia is apparently good enough for you...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election_controversy,_voting_machines#Specific_issues_relating_to_Diebold_machines_and_practices

[Behind the Aegis]

34. Keep on moving posts and personal attacks...now, it is entering another subject, not about the OP.

[Alexander]

35. You brought up Bush, not me. Keep on showing your complete inability to debate.

I have not initiated a single personal attack in this thread.

[Behind the Aegis]

36. I brought it as an example to another poster.

You are the one spewing the conspiracy theories.

As for strawman, look up the definition, I don't think you know what it means. Your personal attack was clear.

[Alexander]

37. An example that was wrong.

"You are the one spewing the conspiracy theories."

If it was such a conspiracy, why did the Congress object to counting a state's electoral votes for the first time since 1876?

You have no answer for this.

"As for strawman, look up the definition, I don't think you know what it means."

I'll get right on that, after you look up words like "leaders" and "electing".

"Your personal attack was clear."

Then alert on this supposed "personal attack" and let a Jury decide. Or are you afraid they'll let my comments stand, because there were no personal attacks?

You just can't admit that your examples were incorrect, so now you're flailing around and trying every trick in the book to try to distract from that fact.

[florida08]

4. Glad to hear it

Iran is home to the largest colony of Jews, outside of Israel of course. The sabre rattling endangers them. The Iraq mission was to include Iran but in the greed to control the oil and bring down OPEC they underestimated that cakewalk. I believe the president is smarter than that..at least I hope he is.

[OnyxCollie]

5. In response to what majorities think,

I offer this quote from Dick Cheney, representative of the PTB:

"So?"

[MindMover]

6. Unfortunately correct in today's toxic political environment.....

[sulphurdunn]

7. Israel is just like any other country.

Only about 1/3 of the people and 2/3 of the political leaders are insane.

[David__77]

8. I'd be extremely surprised if Israel conducted a unilateral action.

Iran is not what it was 20 years ago. It has its own sophisticated defense capabilities.

[Douglas Carpenter]

9. that is comforting to know

given the rhetoric by Netanyahu and some others - it is impressive that the people of the State of Israel have this restraint

[Prometheus Bound]

10. The headline and opening sentence appear to contradict one another.

[kentauros]

12. I saw that, too, but it appears that the story has been corrected

on the CS Monitor site for this story. Here's how it reads now:

Two polls that came out this week show that as many as two-thirds of Israelis oppose a strike on Iran nuclear sites even without US support – a step the prime minister has threatened.

The OP should make this correction, too
On edit: it also appears that the OP made the correction, but neither one (of two) is showing. Another DU3 glitch, I take it...

[nanabugg]

13. Call me when the majority of Israelis elect a new government. nt

[Devil_Fish]

15. a majority of Americans didn't want to go to Iraq eaither.

Won't matter much will it? History will simply keep repeating it self.

[Tveil]

18. Why is this good news? They can do it themselves, keep us out of it.

Even though, we will get blamed because we supply Israel with weapons and AID.

[yurbud]

20. so if their gov't does it anyway, it makes their democracy look as hollow as ours.

[Fearless]

21. +1