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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 06:23 PM Mar 2012

Gaza rockets pummel Israel's south for third day; 200,000 students ordered to stay home

Source: http://www.haaretz.com/

Residents of southern Israel suffered another day under siege on Sunday as Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired about 50 more rockets at the Negev.

Two Grad-type Katyusha rockets fell in Be'er Sheva after the Iron Dome battery that had been protecting it suffered a technical malfunction.

Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/gaza-rockets-pummel-israel-s-south-for-third-day-200-000-students-ordered-to-stay-home-1.417871?localLinksEnabled=false



Another sad day in the middle east.....

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Gaza rockets pummel Israel's south for third day; 200,000 students ordered to stay home (Original Post) MindMover Mar 2012 OP
Another day Plucketeer Mar 2012 #1
Yahhh, I get to miss that algibra test! Deuteros Mar 2012 #5
The people of Gaza Bohunk68 Mar 2012 #2
I said middle east....that includes Gaza...and no, I do not condone what is basically..... MindMover Mar 2012 #3
The Palestinians could be citizens of a state today MicaelS Mar 2012 #22
Give them a state. Deuteros Mar 2012 #4
Zoo Deuteros Mar 2012 #6
Might want to learn what a "concentration camp" and "jail" are. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #7
Gaza is what it is and I do not make up generalities that sound like another politician talking... MindMover Mar 2012 #9
It is not a concentration camp, nor jail and if you need it I can demonstrate both! Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #10
Please demonstrate by stopping the killing and virtual enslavement of over a million people....!!! MindMover Mar 2012 #11
Please stop with the propaganda. It serves NO purpose. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #13
Read the independent link I provided and then get back to me with some real demonstration MindMover Mar 2012 #14
I don't need to read midless anti-Israel propaganda. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #16
Sorry that you are upset, and it is no wonder that what is happening in the middle east is happening MindMover Mar 2012 #18
How disinegenious. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #19
Stop digging leftynyc Mar 2012 #20
Hear hear! Underwear bummer Mar 2012 #12
Are you living an out of body experience because you do not make sense in this world....???? MindMover Mar 2012 #15
Gaza is what Hamas has chosen to make it. Fozzledick Mar 2012 #17
Here, here Fozzledick. You're 100% correct. n/t Johnson20 Mar 2012 #24
A concentration camp Bohunk68 Mar 2012 #21
"Israeli airstrikes killed three Palestinians including a schoolboy in the Gaza Strip on Sunday" cheapdate Mar 2012 #8
What triggered this particular attack? got root Mar 2012 #23
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
1. Another day
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 07:19 PM
Mar 2012

of blithering stupidity in the middle east. C'moooonnnnnnnnn Rapture!!! The rest of us need some relief!

Deuteros

(9 posts)
5. Yahhh, I get to miss that algibra test!
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mar 2012

Gaza rockets pummel Israel's south for third day; 200,000 students ordered to stay home.

Hey, all we had was the occasional "snow day", Israeli children are sooooo lucky!

Look at the free fireworks display! Ohhh ahhh pretty!


Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
2. The people of Gaza
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 07:57 PM
Mar 2012

are under siege every day of the day, every hour of the day. They live in one huge concentration camp or jail, whatever you want to call it. So, Israelis have to experience this for a couple of days. Wow, I'm underwhelmed.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
3. I said middle east....that includes Gaza...and no, I do not condone what is basically.....
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 08:11 PM
Mar 2012

a concentration camp....

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
22. The Palestinians could be citizens of a state today
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:06 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Presuming their fellow Muslim brothers in the other Muslim states granted them citizenship. The other Muslim states could have done that anytime since the formation of the state of Israel. Note that I use Muslim as opposed to Arab since the Persians often claim they are not Arab.

The fact is that none of the other Muslim states have granted the Palestinians citizenship, because they would rather use the plight of the Palestinian people as political weapons.

(1) A weapon to keep beating up on Israel
(2) A weapon to keep their own people stirred up
(3) A weapon to keep their own people minds off the injustice in their own countries, or
(4) Maybe they see the Palestinians as an underclass they don't want in their country

If there's a concentration camp in Gaza as you assert, it exists in part because the Palestinian peoples fellow Muslims refuse to do the morally correct thing and grant them citizenship.

Deuteros

(9 posts)
4. Give them a state.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:22 PM
Mar 2012

I agree, shame on Egypt and Jordan for keeping all those Egyptians and Jordanians trapped like that for their own political gain. I realize that non-democracies rely on casting others as villains responsible from every problem from economic woes to cold coffee, but frankly conflict in the middle east isn't newsworthy. It's just Booring. Give the people of Gaza an award for "Worst Protestors ever" or maybe a Darwin award.

We should be able to find a compromise between the sides.
Hamas "Drown every Jew 100 meters below the sea"
Isreal "Live as a free and democratic state"

The suggested compromise by the surrounding countries of "Drown every Jew 50 meters under the sea" seems perfectly reasonable, why after so many failed resolutions for that particular compromise at the UN won't the Israelites accept it? They are so unreasonable. Iran should help Hamas with better guidance so they don't randomly hit civilian targets, a good guidance system would allow them to hit their intended targets, school children, hospitals and such.

We should ask the UN human rights commission to look into it, after all it consists of such bastions of humanity such as People's Republic of China, Zimbabwe, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. Don't forget Algeria, Syria, Libya, Uganda and Vietnam! All wonderful places to live with freedom and love! I'm sure they can help.

Israel should recognize the rights of these immigrants to the area to form a state. Then when the rockets fly it will be an act of war and they can have a real war and get it over with. </sarchasm>

Deuteros

(9 posts)
6. Zoo
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 09:31 PM
Mar 2012

It's just awful, the concentration camps zoo had to paint donkeys to look like zebras! Barbaric!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33278616/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/gaza-zoo-replaces-zebras-painted-donkeys/
To be fair, zebras don't let you pet them.

I hear they only have second run movies at the cinimas. If that isn't a good cause for a rocket attack, what is?



Behind the Aegis

(54,037 posts)
7. Might want to learn what a "concentration camp" and "jail" are.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:01 PM
Mar 2012

Gaza is neither. But, it makes for great propaganda and war-mongering against Israel and the Palestinians.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
9. Gaza is what it is and I do not make up generalities that sound like another politician talking...
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:18 PM
Mar 2012

out of both sides of his/her mouth.....propaganda is for pulp media and war mongering is for the greedy bastards destined for HELL.....

Here is perspective from an outsider and a couple of real pictures.....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1284166/Whats-life-really-like-Gaza-blockade-ROBERT-HARDMAN-uncovers-hellish-realities-surprising-truths.html

This is one of many checkpoints for people from one land to get to work in another land....

and I am not a sympathizer of any group, nationality or culture in the middle east. I have an opinion based on facts, not propaganda....


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/41483660@N04/6974865657/" title="checkpoint1 by pbmus, on Flickr"><img src="" width="500" height="344" alt="checkpoint1"></a>

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
11. Please demonstrate by stopping the killing and virtual enslavement of over a million people....!!!
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:19 AM
Mar 2012

I do not mean to be facetious but how could you possibly demonstrate that what is going on now as we type, is not something created to foment, incite and justify even more violence on man, women, and children......

this killing, murder, is what in my business we call.... INSANITY===which is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.....



Behind the Aegis

(54,037 posts)
13. Please stop with the propaganda. It serves NO purpose.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:48 AM
Mar 2012

How can you POSSIBLY think Gaza is anywhere near a jail, much less a concentration camp? Are you familiar with what a concentration camp actually is??!

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
14. Read the independent link I provided and then get back to me with some real demonstration
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 01:03 AM
Mar 2012

that you have promised.....

If you are one of the survivors from a concentration camp in WW!! then I apologize and can understand your passion about my use of the words concentration camp.....and yes I have some family experience of a concentration camp during the big war....specifically my mother.....and her experiences.....

Behind the Aegis

(54,037 posts)
16. I don't need to read midless anti-Israel propaganda.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 01:45 AM
Mar 2012

If you indeed have "experience," then I am even more horrified by your continued use of biased, boderline bigoted, propaganda. Read up on actual concentration camps, then get back to me when you can find actual equilience to that of Gaza. Gaza is no more a concentration camp, than Israelis are Nazis; which is the other implication.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
18. Sorry that you are upset, and it is no wonder that what is happening in the middle east is happening
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:26 AM
Mar 2012

I know now that you have only read what you wanted to read and understood it the way you wanted, to fit into your particular world view, which is exactly what is happening today in the middle east.....

When you cannot dialogue without attacking then there will be little understanding and I feel sad....

I am not now and will never be a sympathizer for any side in the middle east with the exception of being a sympathizer for the side of humanity.....

Your personal attacks and defensive behavior signal nothing but contempt for the human experience and your continued ignoring the reality of the human suffering is contributing to the cycle of violence toward men, women and children throughout the middle east....

Lastly, I want to say that there has been enough killing, murdering, vengeance, destruction...it is only benefiting a very few individuals...that in a future reality will answer.

Behind the Aegis

(54,037 posts)
19. How disinegenious.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 02:38 AM
Mar 2012

"I know now that you have only read what you wanted to read and understood it the way you wanted, to fit into your particular world view, which is exactly what is happening today in the middle east..... "

You have described yourself.

"Your personal attacks and defensive behavior signal nothing but contempt for the human experience and your continued ignoring the reality of the human suffering is contributing to the cycle of violence toward men, women and children throughout the middle east.... "

And your personal attacks are nothing but further proof of the disingeniousness of your posts and a perfect way to avoid actually answering how Gaza is like a concentration camp, and by inference, how Israelis are like the Nazis.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. Stop digging
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 05:23 AM
Mar 2012

Your ridiculous hyperbole does nothing to bolster your argument. If people aren't being worked to death, being put into ovens and burned or put in mass graves, it's not a concentration camp despite your hair on fire hysteria. Unless you can show how the camps had shopping malls and 5 star hotels, your argument is a vile attempt at the magical balance fairy.

12. Hear hear!
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
Mar 2012

The Palestinian leadership has never seriously pushed for peace. They let Hamas and other terrorist (yes there are REAL terrorists besides the former Bush Administration and Pentagon) run riot.

With just half the money spent in the past ten years on aid to Gaza, and Israel we could have purchased most all of Beverly Hills and put the "poor Palestinians" up there in style. But the Palestinians do not want this. What they do want is perpetual victim-hood. We shouldn't buy into it.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
21. A concentration camp
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:31 AM
Mar 2012

is a place where a populace is "concentrated". Let me digress just a bit. I was born during WWII and my high school coach, Larkins, was a Colonel in the war and was one of the libertors of Birchnau, if my memory serves. He was also my senior Government/Health instructor. I recall to this very day, how, one day, he told us about his experiences in the liberation of the camp and how horrified he was. There was strong sympathy for the creation of the state of Israel and if it were at the cost of the A-rabs, so what? They were only Muslim heathens anyway! It was later, after I moved to the BIG city, Cleveland, that I came into contact with Palestinians and then heard their story. It was almost as if the Israelis did to the Palestinians what was done to them over the centuries in Europe. Notice I said, almost as if. It was like the Palestinians now got the shitty end of the stick and became the whipping boys for what had happened over the centuries.

I am of Hungarian ancestry and my surname on my birth certificate is: Tobias. We were raised Christian. Mom and dad got divorced in 1945, when I was just over 2 years old and I was raised by her family, Connecticut Yankees all. When I began doing my genealogy, I began to suspect that my Hungarian Tobiases were in fact, Jewish. I found no records in the Christian churches of any Tobiases going back to 1710. Then, one day, I was on Ancestry and noticed a small sidebar about Central European Jewish family records. Curious, I checked it out and discovered that there was an 1848 census taken in Austria-Hungary that was only of Jews because they had lead the 1848 revolution. Clicked on it, and there, were tons of Tobiases!! Aha! A long mystery that I had long suspected was indeed true! The next time I was in Ashtabula and visiting my Hungarian relatives, I told them of my discovery, expecting a lot of gratitude. Well, the shrieks drowned out any highway noise. Their absolute insistence that in no way were they Jewish was overwhelming. I am of course, now persona non grata at those family gatherings.

I have always been a firm believer in the Constitution and in the equality of all persons. I strive not to have any centric ideas about any groups of peoples. The reason for that is that when it is realized that from a DNA point of view, all males are descended from a man who lived about 74,000 years ago in Central Asia, then you realize that all of us males are cousins at the basic level of our being. All other stuff is just overlay. When you understand that the man standing next to you, regardless of what you may think of what comes out of his mouth, is indeed, your relative, you regard them in a different way.

Case in point: when I moved with my love to his home town here in Upstate NY, I didn't think I was related to anyone around me. But, when we started working on our roots, we discovered that we were related four times! Indeed, since his death, I have discovered two more relationships. And because of his family's living here for over 200 years, I discovered that I was related to many others also. When it became known in the general community, people regarded me in a different manner, just as I regarded them in a different manner. How we treat our brothers is important. Palestinians and Israelis are indeed, brothers.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
8. "Israeli airstrikes killed three Palestinians including a schoolboy in the Gaza Strip on Sunday"
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 10:05 PM
Mar 2012

"Israeli police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said the dozen rockets launched from Gaza on Sunday caused no injuries or damage."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501713_162-57394970/3-palestinians-killed-in-israeli-airstrikes/


It's an intractable problem. They've been going at it like this all my life and there's no real possibility that anything is going to be resolved before I'm 6-feet under.

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