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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 06:15 AM Apr 2014

New Bill Would Force Obama Administration To Count Drone Deaths

Source: Huffington Post

Drone strikes under President Barack Obama have killed an estimated 2,400 people -- but there has never been an official count. That would change under a bipartisan bill introduced in the House of Representatives on Wednesday.

The bill, sponsored by Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Walter Jones (R-N.C.), would require the administration to release an annual count of the number of people killed in drone strikes, as well as information on whether they were believed to be civilians or combatants. The legislation, which is similar to an amendment sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) in the 2014 intelligence authorization bill, would be retroactive for five years.

"It's a way of holding ourselves accountable as well as being transparent to the rest of the world about the drone program," Schiff told HuffPost. Obama has committed to reducing civilian casualties from drone strikes, Schiff said, and "this allows us to account for whether we are meeting that goal."

Supporters include advocacy groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, which simultaneously released highly critical reports on civilian deaths from the drone war in Pakistan and Yemen last year.

Read more: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5079508?utm_hp_ref=politics

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New Bill Would Force Obama Administration To Count Drone Deaths (Original Post) jakeXT Apr 2014 OP
Not "late breaking news" Kolesar Apr 2014 #1
Yahoo ? jakeXT Apr 2014 #2
Good try. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #13
that's likely to be a vast underestimate shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #3
Those two Reps. must be up asjr Apr 2014 #4
The entire House is up for re-election this year. nt BumRushDaShow Apr 2014 #5
.... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #6
Another Nobel Peace Prize!!! pocoloco Apr 2014 #9
It's about damn time too! another_liberal Apr 2014 #7
This information should be public. How can there be accountability by KoKo Apr 2014 #8
"We don't do body counts." Daniel537 Apr 2014 #10
Thanks for this post. I agree 100 per cent. However, now ballyhoo Apr 2014 #11
Here's an interactive chart on drone strikes in Pakistan 2004-2013 Lars28 Apr 2014 #12
Sounds like a good bill. It's the least we can do. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #14
More evidence for the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague warrant46 Apr 2014 #15

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
3. that's likely to be a vast underestimate
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:15 AM
Apr 2014

The only drone pilot to have come public has admitted to 1626 kills, many of whom he believed to have been civilians.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201311/drone-uav-pilot-assassination?printable=true

That is a single drone pilot. It is worth noting that the combined Taliban/haqqani network is about 70 000 people. If the US military is to be believed then this one drone pilot has managed to kill two percent of the entire enemy all by himself.

In any event any figures submitted by the white house are likely to be bullshit anyway. But good luck to the sponsors of this bill. Someone has to do it.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. It's about damn time too!
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:47 AM
Apr 2014

If we are going to play God with the lives of innocents all over the World, we should at least have to keep a record of how many we actually kill.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. This information should be public. How can there be accountability by
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:00 AM
Apr 2014

our government by the people unless what is done is on the record.

I wonder if it will pass, though. So many of these bills are touted but then lose on the Repug vote...along with the usual 8-12 Dems who vote "R".

Anyway...the count and legal rationale for the killings should be on the record.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
11. Thanks for this post. I agree 100 per cent. However, now
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:40 AM
Apr 2014

that Democracy is dead, I'm not certain it matters anymore. I sometimes wonder if we are just in another episode of Hunger Games.

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