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Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 02:11 PM Mar 2012

Leaked documents show 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after World War 2

Source: ANI Asian News International

Leaked documents show 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after World War 2
By ANI | ANI – 8 hours ago.

London, Mar 20 (ANI): Nine thousand Nazi war criminals reportedly fled to South America after World War II, leaked secret documents have revealed.

According to secret files in Brazil and Chile, accessed by German prosecutors, an estimated 9,000 war criminals escaped to South America, including Croatians, Ukrainians, Russians and other western Europeans who aided the Nazi murder machine.

The documents revealed that as many as 5,000, went to Argentina; between 1,500 and 2,000 are thought to have made it to Brazil; around 500 to 1,000 to Chile; and the rest to Paraguay and Uruguay.

These numbers do not include several hundred more who fled to the safety of right-wing regimes in the Middle East, The Daily Mail reports.

Read more: http://in.news.yahoo.com/leaked-documents-show-9-000-nazi-war-criminals-084124057.html

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Leaked documents show 9,000 Nazi war criminals fled to South America after World War 2 (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2012 OP
Rev Moon Allied Group Hosts Bush Brother in Paraguay blm Mar 2012 #1
Who would have expected Sun Myung Moon to live where the Nazi Angel of Death Josef Mengele hid Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #3
Propaganda/mind control are RevMoon's specialities. Post WW2 Bush family funded eugenics blm Mar 2012 #9
Bush buys 100,000 acres on border of Paraguay and Brazil blm Mar 2012 #2
¿Paraguay? Octafish Mar 2012 #40
exactly!!!!! blm Mar 2012 #41
1984 Death of Outstanding Congressional Staffer Buried Poppy-Moon Relationship Octafish Mar 2012 #42
I'm grateful to see this thread, and save it for my own future use. Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #43
Sorry, my Friend! Octafish Mar 2012 #44
Many of those they sought to oppress fled there before them if they could afford it. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #4
Many never left US flashsmith99 Mar 2012 #5
Yep, they are alive and well Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #7
Some aren't even marginalized to those types of places. Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #8
OP Paperclip mackattack Mar 2012 #17
Wisconsin has them still-especially that paradoxical Milwaukee, where I was born during the third bobthedrummer Mar 2012 #21
Makes sense mackattack Mar 2012 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #32
Exactly XemaSab Mar 2012 #23
George Wallace's legacy too. The Rainbow Coalition of RACISTS rides the Internet. bobthedrummer Mar 2012 #19
I have no idea what all you are talking about in this thread. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #31
I doubt it. They are probably all dead by now. RebelOne Mar 2012 #38
I invite you to google the phrase 14 words Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #39
Wasn't this called the "Odessa File" in the book & movie of the same name? al bupp Mar 2012 #6
Yes. And it was a great read! Grins Mar 2012 #20
Yep. And the Bernie Gunther novels Owlet Mar 2012 #33
and our war criminals don't even have to leave the country olddad56 Mar 2012 #10
and they get SS protection, too lutefisk Mar 2012 #13
Replying to bookmark. Thanks for posting. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #11
I believe I met one of them about 25 years ago. He was the father of the bride at a wedding. slackmaster Mar 2012 #12
Don't mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it all right. Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #15
Wow. How creepy was that! nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #24
Extremely creepy. We had a good laugh about it but I've been haunted by it since that day. slackmaster Mar 2012 #28
The youngest would now be over 85 FarCenter Mar 2012 #14
That may have been the approximate size of the first wave of Nazis but we both KNOW it's never bobthedrummer Mar 2012 #16
Of course, they also mentioned how many "fled" to N. America.... RUMMYisFROSTED Mar 2012 #25
Nope. RUMMYisFROSTED Mar 2012 #27
I THINK the Nazi chasers thought that the truly evil war criminal Dr. Mengele went to Argentina. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #26
Although he did live in Argentina for a while, Mengele eventually moved to Paraguay. Beacool Mar 2012 #29
Thank you for the update. I was too tired to look that up. Burns me up... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #34
Sickening, isn't it? Beacool Mar 2012 #37
Simon Wiesenthal worked to bring NAZIs to justice. Octafish Mar 2012 #30
That's the name. Thank you. A remarkable man. The U.S. didn't help? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #35
Thanks for giving DU'ers who missed it the first time, a chance to absorb this thread. Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #36

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
3. Who would have expected Sun Myung Moon to live where the Nazi Angel of Death Josef Mengele hid
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:03 PM
Mar 2012

after World War II? What could they ever have in common? Hmmm? And the Bushes, seeking to buy an estate there during W's pResidency?

What could they ever have in common with the evil concentration camp doctor, one wonders!

It's so credible hearing Neil Bush was on important "peace" business meeting in Paraguay with representatives of the Rev. Moon.

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blm

(113,124 posts)
9. Propaganda/mind control are RevMoon's specialities. Post WW2 Bush family funded eugenics
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:01 PM
Mar 2012

programs.

A few years back Bush put in a military base with a 100 soldiers near the Bush-Moon land and media let him get away with it completely.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
43. I'm grateful to see this thread, and save it for my own future use.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 01:04 PM
Mar 2012

Far, far stranger, and creepier than fiction.

So amazing what the corporate media have done to keep us all in the dark, blissful, ignorant, happy shoppers and taxpayers.

I see I was in far too much of a hurry when I read through it the first time. This is something which should have everyone's full attention. Too important to miss.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
44. Sorry, my Friend!
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mar 2012

I mixed two posts together! Please forgive me -- I thought you had written something I was responding to...

flashsmith99

(21 posts)
5. Many never left US
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
Mar 2012

Read online book Nazi Hydra in America : [link:http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html| Eisenhower called them the Military Industrial complex because he was too embarrassed to admit that WWII didn't defeat the Nazi's, just the Germans. It's interesting history to note that Henry Ford was a big fan of Hitler and a contributor to his cause, basically enabling Hitlers rise to power. Also interesting that George W's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the reason that the Trading with the Enemy act was enacted.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
7. Yep, they are alive and well
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 04:20 PM
Mar 2012

and marginalized to posting on stormfront with usernames such as 14Words and 88Power, Don Black and the like.

Behind the Aegis

(54,037 posts)
8. Some aren't even marginalized to those types of places.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012

There are those of us, like you and me, that know some of the Nazi codes and can catch them elsewhere. But, many people have no idea what the codes are, and some even use them innocently, not knowing the message they may be conveying. The fact is, not all Nazis are brownshirts, with jackboots and stiff arms. They are the easy ones to "battle." It is the Nazis in everyday clothes which are more dangerous in my opinion.

 

mackattack

(344 posts)
17. OP Paperclip
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

There are plenty who came to sunny Dayton ohio and helped to start the Air Force Research Lab. The wife of a former infamous scientist (who used slave labor btw) is still living in dayton....very comfortably I might add.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
21. Wisconsin has them still-especially that paradoxical Milwaukee, where I was born during the third
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:59 PM
Mar 2012

Socialist Mayor (Zeidler) the legacy of the real PAPERCLIP Nazis being given identities and jobs in "national security work..." as AMERICANS! The Bund, other US fascist racists. the NSWPP activity of Art Jones et. al. in Milwaukee where a NSWPP member running for Mayor got around 6K votes in the early-mid nineteen seventies.

 

mackattack

(344 posts)
22. Makes sense
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:10 PM
Mar 2012

Milwaukee is in the "german triangle" and it would be very easy to assimilate with the population.

Ohio State had to rename a building because it was given the name of a PAPERCLIP scientist who taught there...years later his war crimes became known.

Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #8)

Response to Post removed (Reply #18)

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
23. Exactly
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:22 PM
Mar 2012

I've been studying a dominionist group, and I can see their codes now.

They're not the rapture ready crowd, so they're under the radar of a lot of people, but it's the fact they they're under the radar that makes them dangerous.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
19. George Wallace's legacy too. The Rainbow Coalition of RACISTS rides the Internet.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:52 PM
Mar 2012

There is no more tinfoil-conspiracies are quite evident today in our post-WikiLeaks reality.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
31. I have no idea what all you are talking about in this thread.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:24 PM
Mar 2012

But have a great Wednesday for what its worth.



RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
38. I doubt it. They are probably all dead by now.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:26 PM
Mar 2012

I was just a child when WW2 started and I am now 73, so I really do not think too many of them are still living.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
39. I invite you to google the phrase 14 words
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 07:16 PM
Mar 2012

and see where it takes you.

Trust me, Naziism is alive and well and celebrated in certain corners in this day and age.

Another fun search would be the child named "Adolf Hitler" whose parents were contacted by CPS after ordering a Happy Birthday Adolf cake from the local Piggly Wiggly. Little Adolf and his sister, "Aryan Nation" were taken from the home soon after.

Yes, these people exist and are proud enough of this historical period to not only carve swastika tattoos into their own skin, but name their children for their beliefs.

al bupp

(2,197 posts)
6. Wasn't this called the "Odessa File" in the book & movie of the same name?
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 04:06 PM
Mar 2012

The novel came out in the 60s, I think. Life imitates art once again.

Grins

(7,246 posts)
20. Yes. And it was a great read!
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:53 PM
Mar 2012

Also was a movie.

Ready for the irony?

The lead "good guy" was Reich-wing fuckhorn and Fox News shit-weasel , Jon Voight.

If they only knew he was a natural for the other side. Coulda had an Oscar..

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
10. and our war criminals don't even have to leave the country
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:06 PM
Mar 2012

because they know that they will never be prosecuted.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. I believe I met one of them about 25 years ago. He was the father of the bride at a wedding.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:23 PM
Mar 2012

He had a distinctly Bavarian surname. One of my friends, a German language teacher, shook hands with him in the reception line. He was about 80 years old. My friend asked "Your name is Bavarian, I believe. Where are you from?"

The man started shaking, turned red, and said (referring to himself and his wife) "Vee are from South America!"

My friend's wife elbowed him and said "Why didn't you just ask what he did during the war, you dummy?!"

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
28. Extremely creepy. We had a good laugh about it but I've been haunted by it since that day.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:20 PM
Mar 2012

The groom was one of my college party buddies. The bride was a sweet innocent and very pretty woman. I don't know for sure that her father was some kind of war criminal, but it seemed likely that he had something to hide given the demographics and how he behaved.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
16. That may have been the approximate size of the first wave of Nazis but we both KNOW it's never
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:37 PM
Mar 2012

stopped since.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. I THINK the Nazi chasers thought that the truly evil war criminal Dr. Mengele went to Argentina.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 09:02 PM
Mar 2012

He was, I believe, traced there. I saw a documentary about it. I think, but I'm not sure, it was finally determined who he became in Argentina, after his death?

That famous Jewish man who tracked down Nazis after the war (what was his name?) made it priority to try to find Dr. Mengele.

What evil lurks in the hearts of men.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
29. Although he did live in Argentina for a while, Mengele eventually moved to Paraguay.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 10:47 PM
Mar 2012

The infamous Angel of Death's last years were spent in Brazil, where he died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Thank you for the update. I was too tired to look that up. Burns me up...
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:33 PM
Mar 2012

that that evil man died of old age.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
37. Sickening, isn't it?
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 03:28 PM
Mar 2012

There were plenty of people who were evil, but he stands out due to all the experiments he did on children. I hope that he's rotting in hell!!!



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
35. That's the name. Thank you. A remarkable man. The U.S. didn't help?
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 08:35 PM
Mar 2012

I'll read up on that.

Did other countries help?

In a way, I guess that makes sense. In a way. A country has to go about the business of running itself; it had some trials, meted out some justice, but tracking criminals down over a long period of time would probably not have been supported by the taxpayers. But I'll read up on it.

Judi Lynn

(160,656 posts)
36. Thanks for giving DU'ers who missed it the first time, a chance to absorb this thread.
Wed Mar 21, 2012, 09:47 PM
Mar 2012

It's irreplaceable.

I wasted no time in securing it for future reference. So well worth any time spent reading the links.

Thanks for lending so much to those of us who've not seen this critically important information.

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