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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:48 PM Mar 2012

UCSD finds genes linked to autism

Source: San Diego Union Tribune

UC San Diego has inched closer to the root causes of autism, identifying genes that appear to go haywire before a child is born, preventing the brain from developing normally.

Neuroscientist Eric Courchesne says he and his collaborators found evidence that many genes basically misfire, producing an overabundance of brain cells in the pre-frontal cortex that affect a child’s social, language and communications skills.

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The findings, published Thursday in PLoS Genetics, could provide insight about how to treat and prevent autism.

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Read more: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/22/ucsd-finds-genes-associated-autism/?sciquest

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UCSD finds genes linked to autism (Original Post) bananas Mar 2012 OP
It would be wonderful if the could treat/prevent autism. k&r Little Star Mar 2012 #1
Be careful... Leftist Agitator Mar 2012 #8
I'm niot "broken" and don't need to be fixed Odin2005 Mar 2012 #16
Please except my apology Odin2005... Little Star Mar 2012 #19
Accepted! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #20
Thank you. Little Star Mar 2012 #22
But think what you could have been if you had not been vaccinated. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #29
Took me a while to get the sarcasm, LOL! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #31
Thank goodness. I was hoping it was pretty obvious. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #32
Now they need to find out WHY they misfire--if there's a precursor that causes it. MADem Mar 2012 #2
Vaccines have been off the hook for many, many years Warpy Mar 2012 #7
my late brother was "autistic" CountAllVotes Mar 2012 #14
I don't know anything about this debate JonLP24 Mar 2012 #21
They found the genes Warpy Mar 2012 #23
"an overabundance of brain cells in the pre-frontal cortex" KamaAina Mar 2012 #3
Or an overabundance in the Reptilian Cortex n/t IDemo Mar 2012 #30
... xchrom Mar 2012 #4
Thanks for this link! SamG Mar 2012 #5
In the case of we asberger's types DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #6
I like Aspies Warpy Mar 2012 #9
But that's why you're all so smart. Don't change. We love you. crazylikafox Mar 2012 #10
I have heard that autism has been linked to ehrnst Mar 2012 #12
Interesting sakabatou Mar 2012 #11
But it can't solely be a case of genes, can it? Since autistic identical twins pnwmom Mar 2012 #13
The same genes can behave or 'misfire' differently - the theory here ehrnst Mar 2012 #15
Thanks! n/t pnwmom Mar 2012 #26
The brain overgrowth occurs before birth. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #18
There are many other factors researchers are investigating pnwmom Mar 2012 #25
"overabundance of brain cells in the pre-frontal cortex" so that's why... Odin2005 Mar 2012 #17
Perhaps there is something to the arcane art of Corrective Phrenology after all slackmaster Mar 2012 #24
I am creeped out by the language: "...to treat and prevent autism." BlueIris Mar 2012 #27
I'm hoping that they can do this to genes, soon, for personal reasons. ehrnst Mar 2012 #28
 

Leftist Agitator

(2,759 posts)
8. Be careful...
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:04 PM
Mar 2012

There are many autistic people who promote neurological diversity. They take great offense at the suggestion that autistic traits should be eliminated from the human genome.

Just in case you were unaware.

P.S. I have no dog in this fight, just spreading knowledge.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
19. Please except my apology Odin2005...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:43 AM
Mar 2012

I meant no harm. I will educate myself further and I'm truely sorry I offended you and others.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. Now they need to find out WHY they misfire--if there's a precursor that causes it.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:54 PM
Mar 2012

This is pretty cool.

I guess those frigging vaccines are off the hook, then?

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
7. Vaccines have been off the hook for many, many years
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:03 PM
Mar 2012

but Wakefield's followers just keep on going like Energizer bunnies, desperate to convert nervous mommies to the cause.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
14. my late brother was "autistic"
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 07:06 AM
Mar 2012

Too bad they did not have a name for what ailed him in 1960.

He began exhibiting symptoms of autism after they shot him full of all sorts of crap.

My mother thought that he developed this problem from all of the shots/vaccines, etc.

I never disagreed with her as I watched the whole thing manifest.

My brother is now dead sadly. He was quite young.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. I don't know anything about this debate
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:00 AM
Mar 2012

but I did see Frontline on it but people on there argued, symptoms could readily appear around the same age when ones are scheduled for the shots. Plus, scientific data checkers concluded the rates of autism are the same for the ones that got the shots that were claimed to cause and the ones with mercury and the ones without, and those who didn't get the shots.

One thing that was apparent is plenty of experts looked into the idea of shots causing autism and have yet to find conclusive proof that those shots cause it.

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
23. They found the genes
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:22 AM
Mar 2012

They've found changes that begin in utero.

Your brother was born autistic. Nobody noticed he was different until he was old enough to get vaccines. I'm very sorry his life was so short.

That's why scammers like Wakefield are so dangerous. And in his case, it was all about money. He'd wanted his own vaccine used instead of the MMR vaccine that came out in the late 60s and it wasn't.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. "an overabundance of brain cells in the pre-frontal cortex"
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mar 2012

If you ask me, a lot of neurotypicals, particularly repukes, suffer from an underabundance of brain cells.

 

SamG

(535 posts)
5. Thanks for this link!
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 05:59 PM
Mar 2012

And, I'm glad that a University I once worked at has been at the forefront of this research.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
6. In the case of we asberger's types
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:00 PM
Mar 2012

It would be nice if we were not thought of as a diseases, but we will be, though it is funny to think that our problems come from having too many brain cells

Warpy

(111,410 posts)
9. I like Aspies
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:06 PM
Mar 2012

I worked at MIT, which is Aspie Central since so many of them display amazing talent when it comes to math and science. I got a cheap education in all sorts of things because they loved talking about what they were doing. I also found them emotionally restful in an odd way.

It was just odd dealing with an astrophysicist who wasn't able to order his own delivery pizza. To my credit, I just accepted it for what it was and ordered it for him.

crazylikafox

(2,763 posts)
10. But that's why you're all so smart. Don't change. We love you.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:08 PM
Mar 2012

... from the mother of a wonderful "asberger type" son

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. I have heard that autism has been linked to
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012

an accelerated development of the brain at a stage earlier than most.

I have a cousin who is an Aspie, and he enjoyed the idea of that when I sent him the the data I found several years ago.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
13. But it can't solely be a case of genes, can it? Since autistic identical twins
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 01:48 AM
Mar 2012

often have a twin without autism. It must be a combination of genes and something else.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. The same genes can behave or 'misfire' differently - the theory here
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:42 AM
Mar 2012

is about the behavior of genes. Genetic makeup within a person can change/misfire throughout life, and now it looks like it may be the case in utero.

more info here:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
25. There are many other factors researchers are investigating
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:37 PM
Mar 2012

that could affect a fetus, such as environmental toxins the mother is exposed to.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
17. "overabundance of brain cells in the pre-frontal cortex" so that's why...
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 08:57 AM
Mar 2012

...I have such a huge noggin!

BlueIris

(29,135 posts)
27. I am creeped out by the language: "...to treat and prevent autism."
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 05:37 PM
Mar 2012

Um, how do they propose to prevent "genes that appear to go haywire"? Is there a way to do that? What are they suggesting, really, re: prevention?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. I'm hoping that they can do this to genes, soon, for personal reasons.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:05 AM
Mar 2012

There is a strong family history in my family of early onset alzheimers.

While I have not been tested, the risk factor for me having the genetic time bomb is high.

I'm nearing 50, and every time that I forget something, there is a twinge of panic.

If they could find a drug that would counterract the genetic mechanism that causes this brain misfire, I would take it.

I would also give it to my son, should he prove to have the gene.

I'm not in any way comparing alzhiemers with autism - other than they are genetic issues that cause a difference in the way brain cells work.

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