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(11,064 posts)This is the opposite of providing universal health care, and it will not lead to universal health care.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)For those who travels and works in other countries and has international health insurance are being told if they experience an emergency in the US to seek treatment but do not do non emergency treatments in the US because of the high cost.
CTyankee
(63,927 posts)will be instrumental in killing privatized health care forever, once the American people get it. AFter all,they saw what happened with Social Security and with Medicare...they know the handwriting is on the wall...but they will LOSE...
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)CTyankee
(63,927 posts)mind believe they want Obamacare?
Study history.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)CTyankee
(63,927 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)CTyankee
(63,927 posts)gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)And we DO have a very long way to go. I wish Michael Moore could have interviewed my former British neighbor who was an insurance broker for Marsh. She passed away shortly after she retired at age 67. I've no doubt the stress of her job was instrumental - she had to do presentations which supposedly justified constantly rising premiums for Japanese clients. She earned a fabulous salary, but gradually concluded our whole system is awful. She said she was a part of it, and it bothered her greatly.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Of getting to a national health care. My friend has experienced France's health care and even though she is an American citizen received prompt service for her broken leg. She was in and out with a cast within three hours. Upon returning to the US it took eleven days to get an appointment with orthopedic and three weeks to get a therapist, two weeks to get a wheel chair and four weeks to get home health to assist in bathing. For those who want to talk about long lines to get health care in places where there is national health care, you are wrong, the long lines are right here in the US.
CTyankee
(63,927 posts)Obamacare will hear about the successes in other states and they will wonder why they don't have it, too. The repukes know this and that is why they are so hysterical about getting it defunded NOW, before it goes into effect.
Same thing happened with Medicare. My father railed against Medicare when it first was passed. When he turned 65 my mother said to him "You're not going to take that Medicare you hated so much, are you?"
P.S. He did. Mother got a good laugh out of that!
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)It's taken awhile to get to where we are.
http://www.medicareresources.org/basic-medicare-information/brief-history-of-medicare/
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"landmark social program now covers 47 million americans
Truman and MedicareDiscussion about a national health insurance system for Americans goes all the way back to the days of President Teddy Roosevelt, whose platform included health insurance when he ran for president in 1912.
But the idea for a national health plan didn't gain steam until it was pushed by U.S. President Harry S. Truman. On November 19, 1945, seven months into his presidency, Truman sent a message to Congress, calling for creation of a national health insurance fund, open to all Americans.
The plan Truman envisioned would provide health coverage to individuals, paying for such typical expenses as doctor visits, hospital visits, laboratory services, dental care and nursing services. Although Truman fought to get a bill passed during his term, he was unsuccessful and it was another 20 years before Medicare would become a reality.
President John F. Kennedy made his own unsuccessful push for a national health care program for seniors after a national study showed that 56 percent of Americans over the age of 65 were not covered by health insurance. But it wasn't until 1965 after legislation was signed by President Lyndon B Johnson that Americans started receiving Medicare health coverage.
Today, Medicare continues to provide health care for those in need. In 2010, it is estimated that 43 million individuals will receive health coverage through a Medicare program with a budget over $450 billion."
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King_Klonopin
(1,307 posts)Nurses have credibility.
There are lots of nurses who are members of a union who would
love to put out this message, myself included.
Obama has not countered the constant onslaught of lies by the
GOP. They are claiming "obamacare" is a failure and it hasn't even
gotten into first gear yet.
These simple facts have been drowned in rhetoric.
Play this video for anyone who claims "obamacare" is bad,
then ask them what specifically they didn't like about the law.
The thing they really hate about it -- it was Obama's desire.
(it wasn't even his IDEA.)
freshwest
(53,661 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)Almost everything it supports they seem to have been against for years.
Imagine that, changing jobs and not worrying about the health insurance part of it, that must be really scary for them