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Related: About this forumMichelle Alexander: "I am definitely endorsing the political revolution."
Maybe the most important black intellectual in decades, and changed the way we talk about race and criminal justice.
She gave us a new vocabulary to talk about civil rights. Similar to how Naomi Klein did for spreading the word about neoliberal capitalism. Something like that, maybe even bigger. Whether Bernie wins or loses, I'm proud to have been fighting on the same side as Michelle Alexander. Bernie may not be #1 with politicians, but he is #1 with so many of the great moral leaders and thinkers of our time, of which Professor Alexander is certainly one.
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)She is awesome!!
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)She finally explained it to me in a way that I can understand and agree with 100%.
And I said Wow before I even saw your post. I wonder how many wows we can line up here.
OK, after watching the Sarandon interview and how obnoxious Chris was, and then this one, and he was virtually speechless, I am so ashamed of him.
He was afraid to take on a black woman. It was OK to disparage an old white woman who is just an actress, but he could not bash Bernie or push Hillary with this woman because he was afraid to look like a racist. What a tool he is.
At least that's my take on it.
I knew older blacks supported the Clintons and I knew a little bit about that, but did not know how to explain away the problems they had with the Clintons and why they were always being "forgiven" for doing things that hurt the black community.
Now I know. Most of them probably don't even know just how bad the devastation against their community was. For example I was told Hillary helped many people with CHIP (1997), well of course she did. She had to after Bill screwed up everything with the passage of welfare reform act in 1996.
Here is a little info on Hillary on the welfare reform act, and Bernie
In 2002, when Congress was debating whether to reauthorize the Clinton-era reforms, then-Senator Hillary Clinton said:
Now that weve said these people are no longer deadbeatstheyre actually out there being productivehow do we keep them there?
Bernie Sander, on the other hand, voted against the 1996 welfare reform legislation as a member of the House of Representatives, and strongly denounced it as cruel. Heres how he described the legislation in his 1997 book, Outsider in the House:
The bill, which combines an assault on the poor, women and children, minorities, and immigrants is the grand slam of scapegoating legislation, and appeals to the frustrations and ignorance of the American people along a wide spectrum of prejudices.
So Michelle said that the Clintons are comfortable with black people (I got that form another poster here too, so I get that)...but I wonder if Hillary is as comfortable as Bill is. I just finished rereading a novel I have for the third time, and I read it again this time because someone here revealed who the novel was about (doh! I can't believe I didn't see that). It was about the Clintons and that went right over my head the first two times I read it. So I read it this time, putting them in as the couple. And boy howdie...this beautiful and intelligent woman is right on there. Bill just loves people, and he doesn't care what color their skin is. He just loves people and living in the south, that included blacks and their culture. He was warm and welcoming to them. And they knew it. And it was the first time a President treated them that way, and they loved him for it. I am not so sure Hillary really is (even though she tries to be). I think she is pretty good, but I think she has to work at it more. She is a natural authoritarian, where I don't think Bill is. So Bill was probably influenced a lot by her in passing the bills that hurt black communities so badly. And I don't think either of the Clintons would have done that if they'd known what the outcome would be.
But Bernie knew it was the wrong way to approach the problems, and said so...and he was right. As he has proven over and over again, he just makes sound, moral, and humane decisions. He is the kind of leader we need. This clip needs to go viral. All of you who do social media (I don't), please post it.
So OK...before I leave this thread, I'll tell you what book to read...Primary Colors. You'll get an eyeful. It's just a novel, so don't get your hopes up. Nothing in the novel happened in real life. But I do think it portrays the Clintons pretty well. It's a good read too.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Your comment would make a great thread for discussion.
I do disagree on a minor point. Fmr. President Clinton is an authoritarian alpha attack dog. imo
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Just the opposite of what he did to Susan Sarandon.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)PS I love all the new birdie logos that are popping up in the signature lines and avatars lately
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)thanks for posting. Check out my post, third one down.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)They overpaid him so he'd voluntarily relinquish his self-respect. Don't look for his self-respect. It's gone.
appalachiablue
(41,201 posts)minorities and the US Prison State brought on by drastic policies in Clinton's 1994 Crime Bill is a landmark research publication.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)This is going on my list.
appalachiablue
(41,201 posts)AlterNet, 'The Tragic End of the Woman Bill Clinton Exploited As Poster Child for Gutting Welfare', by Zaid Jilani, May 11, 2015.
"Eliminating the safety net for Lillie Harden did not transform her family the way Clinton boasted. The pride she had in getting a job gave way to the harsh socioeconomic realities of her life.
The same was true for many others across the countrythe loss of government aid did not instantaneously create living wage jobs with benefits, but rather sunk them further into poverty. This was perhaps most obvious during the Great Recession. One of the changes the welfare reform law made was to transform TANF into a block grant of money given to the states. That means that even as unemployment skyrocketed, because the block grant has never been increased or adjusted for inflation, states received 32 percent less in real (inflation-adjusted) dollars in 2014 than they did in 1997, according to a report from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
>It's a stark illustration of how President Bill Clinton presided over one of the harshest systematic cuts to the poor of any president."
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/tragic-end-woman-bill-clinton-exploited-poster-child-gutting-welfare
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)It wasn't about the primaries, but I'm not going to fight it.
Bill Moyer's has an article about how the welfare reform ended up creating racial bias, especially in the south, and that article also says:
http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/12/how-bill-clintons-welfare-reform-created-a-system-rife-with-racial-biases/
tomm2thumbs
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Mark 750
(79 posts)Bob Dylan wrote this song in 63' - clearly highlights what Michelle Alexander says in 2016.
A bullet from the back of a bush took Medgar Evers blood
A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a mans brain
But he cant be blamed
Hes only a pawn in their game
A South politician preaches to the poor white man
You got more than the blacks, dont complain.
Youre better than them, you been born with white skin, they explain.
And the Negros name
Is used it is plain
For the politicians gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it aint him to blame
Hes only a pawn in their game
The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white mans used in the hands of them all like a tool
Hes taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
Bout the shape that hes in
But it aint him to blame
Hes only a pawn in their game
From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
And hes taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He aint got no name
But it aint him to blame
Hes only a pawn in their game.
Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
They lowered him down as a king
But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
That fired the gun
Hell see by his grave
On the stone that remains
Carved next to his name
His epitaph plain:
"Only a pawn in their game"
Not the best version of his song - also sang it at the March on Washington in 1963.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)treated African Americans as equals. Why does Bill get the credit for this?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)He brought African Americans into government in a in a major way for the first time. And other people of color. His cabinet was more diverse, the party leadership became more diverse. Much more than token representation but actually treating us all as equal human beings. Bill Clinton did do that. It's the best part of his legacy and nobody can take that away from him. It does explain why some people trust the Clintons. I honestly don't remember Carter very much since I was a little kid. But it always seemed that when we were kids the government was mostly a white institution and Clinton really broadened things out racially. Sadly so many of his policies actually hurt working class people including people of color, which Michelle Alexander is also right about.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I so agree with Michelle Alexander.
And I am so grateful to her for saying this so beautifully.
Chris Hayes at least showed her more respect than he showed to Susan Sarandon.
Good for Michelle Hayes.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)The system is broken and needs some fixin'.
valerief
(53,235 posts)downeastdaniel
(497 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,499 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)KPN
(15,677 posts)K&R......