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Rhiannon12866

(207,395 posts)
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 03:56 AM Feb 2023

U.S. gun massacre killers make Republican's 'national gun of America' question moot - Alex Wagner



Alex Wagner points out that while a Republican congressman and gun dealer wants to establish the AR-15 as the "national gun of America," murderers who seek to kill as many Americans as possible in frequent mass shootings have already established their preference for the AR-15 in that very American aberration. - Aired on 02/22/2023.


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U.S. gun massacre killers make Republican's 'national gun of America' question moot - Alex Wagner (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 OP
America's national gun is the arm of 1789 sanatanadharma Feb 2023 #1
I would consider a sword or a club or a Haggard Celine Feb 2023 #2
What's more, the Founding Fathers were well aware of British sabotage efforts peppertree Feb 2023 #5
This is Capitalistic Worship of Deadly Assault Weapons of War. SICK SICK SICK MagaSmash Feb 2023 #3
JFC! I'd like to wake up just one fricking morning, make breakfast, and not be Firestorm49 Feb 2023 #4
I'd also like to wake up without news of yet another mass shooting Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #6
K and R...Thanks for posting.. Stuart G Feb 2023 #7
Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2023 #8
Let us get one thing clear: "Mass Shootings Are NOT NEW" .........LINK BELOW: Stuart G Feb 2023 #9

sanatanadharma

(3,769 posts)
1. America's national gun is the arm of 1789
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 07:19 AM
Feb 2023

The 2nd amendment granted the right to bear the arms that they knew. To claim that the founding fathers would not have changed a word of the 2nd amendment, if they had knowledge of today's arms, is to say that they were sociopaths, like today's 2nd A apologists.

Nothing in the 2nd A prohibits the government from defining an "arm".
Ask the founding fathers to define an "arm"! I doubt that they would have envisioned today's mass killing machines.

Haggard Celine

(16,869 posts)
2. I would consider a sword or a club or a
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 07:50 AM
Feb 2023

variety of things can be used as an "arm." Certainly bombers are part of it as well. When they were using muskets, they had no inkling that people would be using these semiautomatic guns like they are today. Can people carry a switchblade? It's just another "arm," right? These laws make no sense.

peppertree

(21,795 posts)
5. What's more, the Founding Fathers were well aware of British sabotage efforts
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 01:06 PM
Feb 2023

And would no doubt have seen this mass killing epidemic as, at least potentially, part and parcel with said efforts.

In effect, a national security threat.

You can bet they would've put a stop to all this faster than you can say War of 1812.

(these days, of course, our friends in Britain mourn for us - and the 'enemy' is very much domestic)

Firestorm49

(4,044 posts)
4. JFC! I'd like to wake up just one fricking morning, make breakfast, and not be
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 11:23 AM
Feb 2023

astounded by the absolutely insane comments being made by off the wall Republicans. It’s no way to start the day, but sadly it’s become the norm. Man, are we in deep shit ! AK 47 as a “national gun”? What planet am I living on?

I understand the right to free speech, but something, somehow, needs to be done to get these idiots out if Congress and restore rationally thinking mature adults to the mix.

Rhiannon12866

(207,395 posts)
6. I'd also like to wake up without news of yet another mass shooting
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 06:17 PM
Feb 2023

How many does that make now, more than one for every day of this new year...

Stuart G

(38,477 posts)
9. Let us get one thing clear: "Mass Shootings Are NOT NEW" .........LINK BELOW:
Thu Feb 23, 2023, 07:46 PM
Feb 2023

Texas Tower Shooting of 1966...July 31, 1966...Charles Whitman...from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting


Feb 14, 2023 — At 6:45 pm on July 31, 1966, Whitman began typing a suicide note. Among other things he wrote: After noting that he planned to kill his wife ...

Article about Charles Whitman: (SHOOTER) at link below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

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