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Archae

(46,379 posts)
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 08:03 PM Nov 2021

A month ago I found some chains...

They are the wearable type, I see them on rap stars a lot.

Although the chains are heavy like real gold, they are magnetic, and a jeweler friend of mine said they aren't gold.

(They sure look like and feel like real gold though!)

Anyone know what these would be made out of?

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A month ago I found some chains... (Original Post) Archae Nov 2021 OP
Bronze is magnetic Orrex Nov 2021 #1
Bronze is not magnetic Ptah Nov 2021 #2
That'll come as quite a shock to the bare bronze rods that I'm holding right now Orrex Nov 2021 #8
Bronze is usually nonmagnetic, but certain alloys containing iron or nickel may have magnetic proper eppur_se_muova Nov 2021 #9
It's interesting that your Callalily Nov 2021 #3
He said they could be iron or bronze. Archae Nov 2021 #7
Could be any metal Woodswalker Nov 2021 #4
Probably steel with a brass plating... Wounded Bear Nov 2021 #5
They are made out of 5G chips. Pobeka Nov 2021 #6
Can you measure the specific gravity ? eppur_se_muova Nov 2021 #10

Orrex

(63,299 posts)
8. That'll come as quite a shock to the bare bronze rods that I'm holding right now
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 09:38 PM
Nov 2021

That are, indeed, slightly magnetic. From a bit of nickel, I guess?

eppur_se_muova

(36,317 posts)
9. Bronze is usually nonmagnetic, but certain alloys containing iron or nickel may have magnetic proper
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:16 PM
Nov 2021

Bronze is usually nonmagnetic, but certain alloys containing iron or nickel may have magnetic properties.

According to Wikipedia. "Bronze", like "brass", is sort of a catchall term, including a wide variety of copper alloys.

Callalily

(14,901 posts)
3. It's interesting that your
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 08:15 PM
Nov 2021

jeweler didn't tell you what the chains were made of. Surely they would have known.

Wounded Bear

(58,800 posts)
5. Probably steel with a brass plating...
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 08:45 PM
Nov 2021

might be a gold plate, but that would be pretty expensive. Brass requires more polishing, of course.

eppur_se_muova

(36,317 posts)
10. Can you measure the specific gravity ?
Sun Nov 7, 2021, 10:34 PM
Nov 2021

If you have something like an *accurate* graduated cylinder you can partially fill it with water, record the volume as accurately as possible, then drop in the chain and record the increase in volume. Multiply that by the density of water (1.00 g/ml) to get the weight of that volume of water. Then weigh the chain, and divide by the weight of the same volume of water to get the specific gravity. A specific gravity of 5, for example, means the metal is 5 times denser than water. Even a ballpark figure will do, as metals cover a very wide range of densities. Some s.g.s:

iron 7.87
copper 8.96
lead 11.34
mercury 13.59
tungsten 19.25
gold 19.32

platinum 21.45
osmium 22.59

All the really dense elements are relatively scarce, so there's no *really* cheap substitute for gold that feels as dense. Gold-plated tungsten, however, has been used to produce counterfeit gold items -- even bullion -- and is weakly magnetic, the more so if it contains tungsten carbide. China has some of the largest deposits of tungsten in the world, and a lot of fake gold items have resulted from its entry into the market.

(Just for completeness, the smartass answer is "metal".)

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