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UTUSN

(70,784 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 01:40 PM Jul 2015

TCHAIKOVSKY's Sym. #6 ain't that depressing.

Last edited Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:23 PM - Edit history (2)

The English with their Prince Phillip strain of expression call it "the Suicide Symphony" because it was Pyotr Illich's last thing before he supposedly committed suicide. But it's got the trademark TCHAIKOVSKY melodic loveliness and a rousing march in the 3rd movement. What was OMZ to sticklers was that the final movement was slow instead of show stopping, but it comes across more reserved and resigned than down.

That said, I must extend kudos to my taste because, after the drama of cleaning my 60 dusty CDs for the first time and now testing them to see whether some are damaged, I'm focusing on my homemade copies from vinyl, and they seem to be O.K. What I'm getting at is that I had recorded different pieces together on individual CDs, and after something that is supposed to be uniquely moving like "the Suicide Symphony," what do you follow with?!1 Well, my choice was perfect, it turns out from so many years ago, with my sensibilities of today: RAVEL's Pavane pour une infante defunte.

I'd link here, but my machine is having lots of "YouTube" and all other websites (except DU) Not Responding" problems. Is it my machine, my router, the fact that I wet cleaned the keyboard?!1

On Edit, unplugged and replugged the machine and for now, here we go:

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malthaussen

(17,235 posts)
1. IMO, most performances rush the tempo on this...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jul 2015

... many years ago, a DJ on my local jazz station used this as his theme song, and whoever was performing it nailed the tempo just right. But I never found out who did it, and I've been looking for a good tempo ever since. I can't figure it out, what's the rush, Mr Conducter?

-- Mal

elleng

(131,372 posts)
2. Glad I didn't know about the 'suicide part,'
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jul 2015

but guess I'll think of it henceforth. THIS is MINE, for 'mood music,' Pastorale!!!

UTUSN

(70,784 posts)
3. O.K., not only do you do me Ludwig, but Lenny!1 You really know how to get to me!1 Plus,
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jul 2015

at the 35:00 mark is what I call "the lullaby music," to which I wrote these words:

The wind blows,
The sea rolls,
The days and nights go by...
And I live
And you live
And someday we will die...


Both composer and conductor were at magnificent heights in this #6. And how 'bout those lyrics of mine?!1 I've got a few, mint Lenny postage stamps, be back in a minute to post. ... Here 'tis:

elleng

(131,372 posts)
4. Yes, HAD to post the Lenny, UTU!!!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

Dunno about the 'die' part, kind of like Rockabye Baby, cradle will FALL! When we mothers REALIZE what the words say, we STOP that lullabye!!!



OH, LENNY!

UTUSN

(70,784 posts)
5. Sing it!!!1 Now I'm "published" (on the internet) so I can say I partnered with BEETHOVEN!1 n/t
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. I love the Seventh
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jul 2015

and my hometown band's recent Beethoven cycle is a superb one.

Give a listen to the Minnesota Orchestra's recordings. Osmo Vanskaa brings a clarity of vision and directness to the Mighty Nine that stands with any cycle I've heard, including Klemperer, Walter, and von Karajan's early Sixties cycle. Avoid von K's Seventies cycle - far too mannered and the conductor consistently draws attention to himself rather than to he music, the exact opposite of Vanskaa's approach.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,793 posts)
7. Ah, thank you for this wonderful bit of music!
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 02:40 PM
Jul 2015

I have always loved this, from the first hearing...

Ravel is so good.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
11. The other Pavane that is cool.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:29 PM
Jul 2015

Pavane by Gabriel Faure. Played this with a community orchestra years ago.

For orchestra with optional chorus, or piano solo:

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