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Gato Moteado

(9,879 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 12:48 AM Jan 2024

white faced monkey headshots from today

i accidentally shot these all in crop mode so they were APS-C sized and lower resolution.....it was late afternoon and dim so ISO was 4000 to 5000 on each of them.....plus i cropped them even smaller. the images were very noisy, so i ran them through adobe's AI denoise and did some other processing.











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white faced monkey headshots from today (Original Post) Gato Moteado Jan 2024 OP
He's a sincere looking NJCher Jan 2024 #1
Nice job. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2024 #2
My dear Gato! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2024 #3
APS-C is crop sensor... Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2024 #6
the APS-C standard size (DX in nikon language) is less than half the size of a full frame..... Gato Moteado Jan 2024 #9
And then to thoroughly confuse things... Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2024 #10
yeah there are a whole host of 4:3 aspect ratio sensor sizes..... Gato Moteado Jan 2024 #11
Thanks for the great information Gato. Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2024 #13
yes, it's addictive! Gato Moteado Jan 2024 #14
Nice shots. brer cat Jan 2024 #4
omg Skittles Jan 2024 #5
Great shots Gato. Grumpy Old Guy Jan 2024 #7
Wonderful expressions on your white faced monkey. Callalily Jan 2024 #8
They are great subject matter, nice shots! Living in such close proximity to these little Ziggysmom Jan 2024 #12
that last shot justaprogressive Jan 2024 #15
my favorite one is the one just above it Gato Moteado Jan 2024 #16

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,754 posts)
3. My dear Gato!
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 01:30 AM
Jan 2024

These look great to my eye!

What is APS-C sized? I need to be educated!

Wonderful photos, dear Gato . . .

Grumpy Old Guy

(3,184 posts)
6. APS-C is crop sensor...
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 03:34 AM
Jan 2024

...as opposed to a full frame sensor. A crop sensor is approximately half the size of a full frame sensor. I believe your Olympus is Micro four thirds, which I think is about the same size as APS-C.

Gato Moteado

(9,879 posts)
9. the APS-C standard size (DX in nikon language) is less than half the size of a full frame.....
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 10:18 AM
Jan 2024

....the full frame standard size is about 2.4x the size of APS-C. the micro 4/3 sensor is even smaller than APS-C....it's about 1/4 the size of a full frame sensor.

Grumpy Old Guy

(3,184 posts)
10. And then to thoroughly confuse things...
Mon Jan 22, 2024, 01:55 PM
Jan 2024

... there is the tiny sensor in a bridge camera or camcorder. I think it's 1/2.3 or something like that.

Gato Moteado

(9,879 posts)
11. yeah there are a whole host of 4:3 aspect ratio sensor sizes.....
Tue Jan 23, 2024, 10:02 AM
Jan 2024

the micro 4/3 sensor is called 4/3, not because it has a 4:3 aspect ratio (it does, but so do all of the smaller sensors), but because 4/3 of an inch (1 and a third inches) is the diameter of a 1950s vidicon tube that would be needed to surround the sensor. if you're confused as to why they would use that system to name a sensor, join the club. here's a little bit about that:

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4159871805/making-sensor-sizes-less-misleading

here is a graphic showing the common sized sensors next to each other so you can compare them visually:



and, yes, you are correct...the nikon bridge cameras (P950, P1000, etc) have the tiny 1/2.3 sensors....with such a huge crop factor, this is what allows them to zoom to ridiculously long full frame telephoto focal length equivalents. i think the sony bridge cameras use the 1" (remember, that means that you'd need a 1 inch vidicon tube to surround it) which is only a bit smaller than a 4/3.

a lot of people (generally knuckleheads parroting what they hear other people say) in the online photography forums will claim you need a full frame camera because all crop sensors are practically useless. while there are clear advantages to full frame cameras, there are also advantages to crop sensors, and 4/3 is a sweet spot, IMHO, for certain things like macro and close-up photography. a 20MP M4/3 sensor has higher resolution than even my nikon Z8....what i mean is that it has a tighter pixel density. remember, you're jamming 20 million pixels into a sensor not much more than 25% of the size of a full frame sensor....that would be the equivalent resolution of a full frame sensor with almost 80MP. so, when photographing at 1:1 or greater magnification, you're getting a lot more resolution on your subject on a 20MP M43 sensor than any high resolution full frame sensor nikon, canon or sony makes. additionally, because the sensor is about a quarter of the size of a full frame sensor, when you're doing close up photography (not macro) of subjects like small animals (like frogs, for instance) you can really back off, even with something like a 60mm macro lens, in order to fill the frame. now in this case, you're sacrificing resolution when compared to a full frame camera with a macro lens, which could fill a 46MP frame with something like a small frog, but you're going to get way more depth of field at sweet spot apertures, like f/7.1, for example. also, when photographing frogs and other small animals at night (where you need a speedlight, modeling light and diffuser) in-situ, your rig is lighter and way more agile than a full frame set up.

Grumpy Old Guy

(3,184 posts)
13. Thanks for the great information Gato.
Tue Jan 23, 2024, 11:03 PM
Jan 2024

I didn't know that about the video tubes. I probably should have known it considering I worked in television.

I shot with Canon bridge cameras (SX20HS & SX40HS) from about 2011 to 2015. I had no idea about sensor sizes then, I just enjoyed playing with the superzoom lenses. It felt like having an entire bag full of gear in one little camera. Nine years later I now have a closet full of expensive full frame and crop sensor gear.

Ziggysmom

(3,430 posts)
12. They are great subject matter, nice shots! Living in such close proximity to these little
Tue Jan 23, 2024, 08:09 PM
Jan 2024

monkeys, do they ever become a nuisance or cause trouble for you?

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