Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumRegarding HRC being a "Rockefeller Republican" (HC group)
(Here's my response to a thread on GD-P that says that Bernie is a FDR Democrat while HRC is a Blue blooded "Rockefeller Republican" :
Here are a few "Rockefeller Republicans" as I'm sure you probably didn't realize it--so I think she is in good company:
Jacob Javits:
Throughout his years in Congress, Javits seldom enjoyed favor with his party's inner circle. His liberalism was a vestige of a Republican party of an earlier era, and though he hung tenaciously to his liberal precepts, his influence was more subtle than obvious. Few pieces of legislation bear his name, yet he was especially proud of his work in creating the National Endowment for the Arts, of his sponsorship of the ERISA Act, which regulated defined-benefit private pensions, and of his leadership in the passage of the 1973 War Powers Act.
Javits used his office to advance ideas that furthered the policies even of Democratic presidents. In the fall of 1962 he proposed to a group of NATO parliamentarians that multinational corporations jointly create a new kind of investment vehicle to promote private investment throughout Latin America. He intended his idea to complement President John F. Kennedys Alliance for Progress. Two years later some 50 multinational corporations formed the Adela Investment Company much as Javits had proposed.[7]
Javits was generally considered a liberal Republican, and was supportive of labor unions and movements for civil rights. In an essay published in 1958 in the magazine Esquire, he predicted the election of the first African-American president by the year 2000. In 1964, Javits refused to support his party's presidential nominee, his conservative colleague, Barry M. Goldwater of Arizona.
Senator Javits sponsored the first African-American Senate page in 1965 and the first female page in 1971. His liberalism was such that he tended to receive support from traditionally Democratic voters, with many Republicans defecting to support the Conservative Party of New York.
Charles Mathias
Mathias was frequently at odds with his conservative colleagues in the Senate and the Richard Nixon administration. In June 1969, Mathias joined with fellow liberal Republican Hugh Scott of Pennsylvania in threatening a "rebellion" unless the Nixon administration worked harder to protect African American civil rights.[18] He also warned against Republicans using the "Southern strategy" of attracting conservative George Wallace voters at the expense of moderate or liberal voters.[15] Mathias voted against two controversial Nixon Supreme Court nominees, Clement Haynsworth and G. Harrold Carswell, neither of whom was confirmed. Mathias was also an early advocate for setting a timetable for withdrawal of troops from Vietnam, and was against the bombing campaigns Nixon launched into Laos.[15] In October 1972, Mathias became the first Republican on Ted Kennedy's Judiciary subcommittee and one of only a few in the nation to support investigation of the Watergate Scandal, which was still in its early stages
In early 1974, the group Americans for Democratic Action rated Mathias the most liberal member of the GOP in the Senate based on twenty key votes in the 1973 legislative session. At 90 percent, his score was higher than most Democrats in the Senate, and was fourth highest amongst all members
Lowell Weicker
Weicker was a liberal voice in an increasingly conservative Republican Party. "In its 1986 rankings, the venerable Americans for Democratic Action rated Weicker the most liberal Republican in the Senate, by farand 20 percentage points more liberal than his fellow Connecticut senator, a Democrat named Chris Dodd."
Edward Brooke
By his second year in the Senate, Brooke had taken his place as a leading advocate against discrimination in housing and on behalf of affordable housing.[17] With Walter Mondale, a Minnesota Democrat and fellow member of the Senate Banking Committee, he co-authored the 1968 Fair Housing Act, which prohibits discrimination in housing. The Act also created HUD's Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity as the primary enforcer of the law.[17] President Johnson signed the Fair Housing Act into law on April 11, one week after the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.. Dissatisfied with the weakened enforcement provisions that emerged from the legislative process, Brooke repeatedly proposed stronger provisions during his Senate career. In 1969, Congress enacted the "Brooke Amendment" to the federal publicly assisted housing program which limited the tenants' out-of-pocket rent expenditure to 25 percent of his or her income.[17]
During the Nixon presidency, Brooke opposed repeated Administration attempts to close down the Job Corps and the Office of Economic Opportunity and to weaken the Equal Employment Opportunity Commissionall foundational elements of President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.
BTW, Some of the "FDR Democrats" that supported FDR for all four of his elections include most, if not all, the Southern racists. FDR didn't have a very good record on Civil Rights--Strom Thurmond said that FDR said a lot of things that Truman did, replied, "Yeah, but Truman means them." (not that FDR wasn't a great Democrat--but to say that Bernie is a FDR Democrat and Hillary is a "Rockefeller Republican" isn't really the worse thing in the world. I would say that HRC is a Kennedy-Obama Democrat--and that's why I support her.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I was just on the jury for that post, and I was the only hide vote, and that was the comment I left.
They would have thought FDR was a tool of the rich and hated him too. There was left opposition to FDR at the time, and this ridiculous revisionism of FDR is ridiculous. HRC is much closer to FDR than Bernie. Bernie would have been Norman Thomas.
riversedge
(70,441 posts)over and over. and over.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)People who post that Bernie-FDR connection don't know their history and don't know FDR.
otohara
(24,135 posts)Gads she voted for Reagan twice.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)agreed with him. Hillary became an adult under LBJ, he got Medicaid passed, the Civil Rights Bill passed, claim anything they want, each candidate should stand on their own two feet and not try to ride in on greats like FDR, JFK, LBJ, doesn't mean applying the memory of these greats does not mean there will be success in their administration.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)It's all bullshit. Soon Bernie will return to indie world from whence he came. Chill
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Far from the voting age of 21 then. Who hasn't done something regrettable at 16?
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)in the 1980s. He would likely have been re-elected had he run again in MD. I believe that one of the reasons that he didn't may have been because he was getting disillusioned with what the Republican Party was becoming.
So he stepped down and voila, we got the inimitable and great Barbara Mikulski! Whom I am sorry to see go, but ....
Mathias was a great guy and an excellent Senator.
And Bernie Sanders is no FDR - any comparison is by people who really don't know much about FDR.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)85% of the population wouldn't even know what the hell either term means. Waste of time IMHO.