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We are fair and gracious and do send Bernie and his people congratulations for being motivated and organized for these caucuses. I have to say I do wish more Hillary supporters in those states had gone out to caucus, but there was little doubt the young single Bernie people were going to come out for these long caucus sessions in larger numbers. Remember, these are caucuses which require much more time and public voting which working people, older people, and parents with small kids have more difficultly attending. Remember that if these had been primaries, turnouts would have been much higher, more diverse, and many more Hillary supporters would have voted. And, Hillary still picked up some delegates. She remains ahead in the pledged delegate count by about 270. Over the next few weeks, the race returns to large diverse primary states like WI, NY, and PA where Hillary will most likely win and continue to build her insurmountable lead over Bernie. Bernie just had his best day, and still he is WAY behind in the delegate count.
For all intents and purposes, this race was over after Super Tuesday. If you look historically, nobody who has won as much as Hillary did on Super Tuesday has lost the nomination. Hillary will win the nomination. Bernie is too far behind. This has been the fact for several weeks now. I think Bernie wants to stay in it in order to have some pull on the Dem national platform and to make a presence at the convention. But he and his people know that without divine intervention he isn't going to be the nominee. The math just doesn't work for him.
So good for the Bernie folks and for Bernie. And now we go on to WI, NY, and PA.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Remember, these are caucuses which require much more time and public voting which working people, older people, and parents with small kids have more difficultly attending. Remember that if these had been primaries, turnouts would have been much higher, more diverse, and many more Hillary supporters would have voted.
Agreed 1000%.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Caucuses are not nearly as democratic as primaries. We are working to do away with it and go to primaries instead. I hope we are successful.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)I hope we succeed, too!
PEACE!
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)I simply can't fathom that there isn't a big movement against them on the left considering how they disenfranchise people. The Guardian reported in 2012 that in the 11 first states of the Republican nomination contest, of 6 caucuses and 5 primaries, the participation of registered voters was 6.5% and 52.8%* respectively. That's such a massive difference it is very worrying.
Caucuses should be done away with. They were designed for a specific group of people: rich, privileged, white men. They were designed to keep undesirables from participating. Today, the vote has been extended to the population at large, and as such, keeping with the extremely outmoded caucus model is a blemish on the Republic.
*I've misstated that as 51.3% before, but I went back to the article.
pandr32
(11,636 posts)...and can attest to the overwhelmingly unpleasant atmosphere for Hillary Clinton supporters. Any who did show (like me) had to face intense opposition and very likely would have left as early as possible--possibly even conceding in the process. I didn't and am an elected delegate, but I saw first-hand how unpleasant it was for others. I don't imagine any of the other caucus places would have been much different. Not just kids for Bernie, but lots of conservatives, too.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...doesn't mean that his seat on the back bench is not still awaiting his return...soon!
PEACE!
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)would be surprised. People need to calm down,as you said she's already got the nom,this is just the circus that goes along with it.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Everyone knew that going into it. Looking forward on the calendar there aren't many more caucuses and more closed primaries.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)jmowreader
(50,572 posts)It's a Midwestern state with an open primary, a LOT of small towns and a Repuke governor who won reelection. This sounds a lot like Michigan so I expect Michigan-like results out of Wisconsin.
Once he gets to the Hammer of Doom that is the New York primary, his good days will have come to an official end.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)She's spending Easter with her family.
Her delegate lead and popular vote are still strong.
LiberalFighter
(51,229 posts)Primaries won
Clinton: 15 -- Sanders: 3
Caucuses won
Caucuses: 4 -- Sanders: 10
Remaining
Primaries: 17 -- Caucuses: 5
creon
(1,183 posts)Those who support Sanders - and the leaders of those who - have to understand that this election is step 1.
They have to realize that there must be many steps after this election.
Progressive legislation requires a progressive majority in the HoR and Senate; and, a progressive President.
That will take millions of votes in all 50 states.
Persistence, discipline and organization over the long term.
Enthusiasm is good over the short term. But, it will years.