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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:46 AM Apr 2016

Bernie's Old Neighborhood Has Doubts About the "Democratic Socialist"...

The brief visit on Friday notwithstanding, Mr. Sanders, 74, seemed to be viewed by residents of his old neighborhood less as a native son and more as a novelty. Nowhere was that more the case than in the apartment building where he lived with his family as a boy.
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Asked what she thought of him, Ms. Lazareva laughed with delight. “Oh, I hate him!” she said.

Ms. Lazareva, who hails from Moscow, recalled waiting in line for three hours each morning to get a jug of milk as a little girl living under communism. “If you lived under socialists, you’d hate them too,” she said. “They make everyone poor.”

Although Mr. Sanders, as a self-described democratic socialist, has a vision for America that is distinct from the economic system in the former Soviet Union, the word “socialist” was enough to provoke anxiety in Ms. Lazareva.
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She was unmoved. “Everyone will be hungry, everyone will be poor,” she said. “If it will be Sanders, we will have the same here. Everybody who comes from a communist country, Russians, Eastern Europeans, even Latinos from Cuba, feel this way. When you know what will happen, when you see it — you’re Republican.”




http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/nyregion/bernie-sanders-back-in-the-old-neighborhood-to-make-his-case.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region

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Interesting reaction on the ground to the "Democratic Socialist". Who knew?
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Bernie's Old Neighborhood Has Doubts About the "Democratic Socialist"... (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 OP
Right, interesting.. she hates him. Thanks for this, Surya. Cha Apr 2016 #1
VERY revealing and disquieting for his prospects in the GE, if god forbid, he makes there ... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #2
so true sarae Apr 2016 #16
Roasted and toasted to charcoal... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #17
you wouldn't even find any bird bones sarae Apr 2016 #18
K & R SunSeeker Apr 2016 #3
He would be vetted the same way Hillary has been for years, it would not be kind. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #4
He's had a free ride since the beginning and it's infuriating. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #5
Some months ago I said Sanders was unfit for Executive Office because KittyWampus Apr 2016 #7
And, he dares to question Hillary's "judgment". Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #12
Calling her unqualified Her Sister Apr 2016 #14
Yes, he does not have any control of his team, I guess I Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #15
By this time, it's obvious Sanders uses that "democratic" in front the of "socialist" KittyWampus Apr 2016 #6
He's only been using the "democratic" label since he started his Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #9
Alert! Alert! This article mentions Bernie's age ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #8
Well, shut my mouth! Jeezus, how weary I am of having to Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #10
I know! It's annoying ... but also funny as hell! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #11
You're right, NJ. We have to keep a sense of perspective and Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #13
Surprisingly, people who've lived under socialist regimes NuclearDem Apr 2016 #19
They've seen the dark side up close and personal and Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #20
What we learned SharonClark Apr 2016 #21
Expats and their family members aren't all Republicans. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #22

sarae

(3,284 posts)
16. so true
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

When people say he's more electable, I have to wonder what they're smoking. They point to polls taken before he's been vetted, as if that's any proof. If he became the nominee, Republicans would circulate the tax calculator, point to your taxes under "the communist", and he'd be finished!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. He would be vetted the same way Hillary has been for years, it would not be kind.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:47 AM
Apr 2016

His agenda is not free, we will all be paying and not the few dollars he has claimed.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
5. He's had a free ride since the beginning and it's infuriating.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:59 AM
Apr 2016

His acolytes cry foul and claim that he's been blacked out by the MSM.

Well, if so, it's the only thing that's allowed him to come this far. The general public has no idea just how unfit he is.

Can you imagine the half-cocked statements and backtracking, such as we've seen this week, if he ever (god forbid) got to the Oval Office?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. Some months ago I said Sanders was unfit for Executive Office because
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:14 AM
Apr 2016

his control of his organization/campaign is so bad.

It was hidden.

His control has deteriorated.

He's a type A control-freak who has lost control. He has so little experience really delegating IMPORTANT stuff he's proven inept.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
12. And, he dares to question Hillary's "judgment".
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

His increasingly erratic behavior is scaring me more all the time.

I'm so afraid that his manifestly massive ego will not allow him to admit defeat (especially to a WOMAN!!!) and that he'll rally his disciples to go nuclear and trash the convention.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
14. Calling her unqualified
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

was a bad call. Did not show good Judgment. It backfired big time. Had to take back.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Yes, he does not have any control of his team, I guess I
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

Was shocked as I listened to his interview, he really does not have answers to his own agenda. It may be easy to run out and tell he wants to break up the banks, Hillary made money giving speeches, she raised money from Wall Street, campaign reform and let the Saudi take care of ISIS, free college and health insurance, not a winning strategy for me.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. By this time, it's obvious Sanders uses that "democratic" in front the of "socialist"
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

as a fig leaf. He doesn't have the guts to admit to his core beliefs.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. He's only been using the "democratic" label since he started his
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

"Party of One" run.

And, "democratic" in his usage has NOTHING to do with the Democratic party. Still today, he overtly scorns the party and admits that he's exploiting it for his own political ambitions.

The worst kind of crass opportunist. He eschewed the Democratic Party until he needed them.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. Well, shut my mouth! Jeezus, how weary I am of having to
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:26 AM
Apr 2016

proofread every post three times to make sure nothing will offend the delicate sensibilites of the Sanders swarm.

At least I've not had my "transparency" page displayed so far. But, it's like walking on frigging Fabérgé eggs.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. You're right, NJ. We have to keep a sense of perspective and
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

observe all the insanity from a "meta" viewpoint.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
19. Surprisingly, people who've lived under socialist regimes
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

have slightly different takes on it than people who "learned about" socialism in a polisci class.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
20. They've seen the dark side up close and personal and
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

that's exactly why they escaped. It's not just an abstract concept to them.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
21. What we learned
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:15 PM
Apr 2016

Ms. Lazareva hates communism. She thinks Sanders is a communist. The expats in her neighborhood are Republican.

And her opinion is important, how?

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