Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forumIsrael losing Democrats, ‘can’t claim bipartisan US support,’ top pollster warns
New survey by Frank Luntz shows almost half of Democratic opinion elites think Israel is racist, barely half believe it wants peace, and three quarters feel it has too much influence on US policy
Three quarters of highly educated, high income, publicly active US Democrats the so-called opinion elites believe Israel has too much influence on US foreign policy, almost half of them consider Israel to be a racist country, and fewer than half of them believe that Israel wants peace with its neighbors. These are among the findings of a new survey carried out by US political consultant Frank Luntz.
Detailing the survey results to The Times of Israel on Sunday, Luntz called the findings a disaster for Israel. He summed them up by saying that the Democratic opinion elites are converting to the Palestinians, and Israel can no longer claim to have the bipartisan support of America.
He said he knew there was a shift in attitudes to Israel among US Democrats and I have been seeing it get worse in his ongoing polls. But the new findings surprised and shocked him, nonetheless. I didnt expect it to become this blatant and this deep.
Read more: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-losing-democrats-cant-claim-bipartisan-us-support-top-pollster-warns/
Tony_FLADEM
(3,023 posts)I think many Democrats didn't vote because of the Gaza conflict where 2,000 Palestinians were killed.
If there is another conflict between now and November 2016 you could see the same result in the Presidential election.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Which is exactly what he is doing here.
He has been regularly censured for the secretive nature of his so-called polls and for mischaracterizing their results.
Typical Fox News BS artist.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)But it also could be that the Netanyahu effect is working.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Only RW sites like Fox News or Times of Israel would take him seriously.
Israeli
(4,165 posts)This Week's Message
An American poll
An American poll
Indicates sharp criticism
Of Israel
Among supporters of
The Democratic Party.
Losing bipartisan support
Is one more
Netanyahu achievement.
Published in Haaretz, July 10, 2015
Source: http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/weekly_ad/1436485689/
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)they don't want a negotiated peace with the Palestinians.
Or have you been asleep for the past 15 years?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)It's one of the most culturally and ethnically diverse countries on the planet.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)Just like in a lot of countries. But that's quite different than claiming like you did that Israel is a racist society.
As I pointed out, Israel is extremely diverse, so assimilation and acculturation is going to take some time.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Totally not a racist society.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)A third want Arab citizens within Israel to be banned from voting in elections to the country's parliament. Almost six out of 10 say Jews should be given preference to Arabs in government jobs, 49% say Jewish citizens should be treated better than Arabs, 42% would not want to live in the same building as Arabs and the same number do not want their children going to school with Arabs.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/israeli-poll-majority-apartheid-policies
Israel could teach the states flying the Confederate Flag how to be really racist.
Mosby
(16,416 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)as if that discredits them.
aranthus
(3,385 posts)Keep in mind that DU is a Democratic party website, not a Leftist website. There's a huge difference.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)like the Israeli prime minister like to do.
Chemisse
(30,824 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)Answer: when Jews are involved.
Hey, has Luntz done a poll on gay marriage? I think he did, you should post it in the LGBT group.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)Because it supports your "views" about Jews.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)That's part of your claim, own it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Mosby
(16,416 posts)You claimed that Israel is a racist country, I'm simply asking which ethnic and or cultural groups do you think are racist. Israeli Jews? Israeli Arabs? Israeli Druze? Russian immigrants?
Who are the racists? Care to clarify?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Little Tich
(6,171 posts)I posted the OP because the poll has been reported in many major news outlets.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/07/06/nearly-half-of-us-democrats-believe-israel-is-a-racist-country-survey-finds/
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/democrats_are_distancing_themselves_from_israel_.html
http://www.worldtribune.com/2015/07/06/poll-47-percent-of-u-s-democrats-now-see-israel-as-a-racist-country/
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/US-opinion-expert-Iran-deal-can-still-be-stopped-408085
http://www.jewishjournal.com/rosnersdomain/item/israel_losing_democrats_or_democrats_losing_israel
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17210
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-ruebner/democratic-support-for-is_b_7769324.html
Mosby
(16,416 posts)You posted a poll on DU created by probably the most notorious right wing fucking operative in the United States of America.
You did that.
Shame on you.
Little Tich
(6,171 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2015, 04:45 AM - Edit history (1)
I don't know if you're actually an anti-Semite, but you sure are keen on perpetuating Jewish stereotypes.
I'll put you on my anti-Semitic shit list.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Whatever its flaws, is and should be the United States' primarily ally in the middle east and the U.S. should fully support Israel. This has nothing to do with ethnicity or religion, but rather is based on the fact that Israel is one of the few democracies in the middle east, doesn't harbor terrorists that want to blow up U.S. citizens and its elite aren't funding terrorism.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:33 AM - Edit history (1)
is yet to be seen. IMO it comes down to this for elected politicians, 'will it lose me votes?', and for most Democrats domestic issues will almost always be more important than foreign affairs, so no politicains will most likely not lose any votes over Israel because other issues such as economic and racial/gender/sexual orentation equality and justice will take precedence over a single issue such as Israel, these are the issues we tend to cast our votes on and why we are Democrats. So while this may be an opinion trend among Democrats, do not expect to see much change from elected officials.
aranthus
(3,385 posts)As Democrats become more influenced by Leftism we can expect it to get worse.