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Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 05:09 PM Feb 2017

Seek info on fireplace inserts


I have a fireplace that is of a pre-cast type popular with builders in SoCal for single family homes in the 1960's-80's. It is installed on an external wall. This type of fireplace is infamous for cracking internally, especially the breast plate. Ours is no different.

The fireplace is non-operational due to the cracked breast plate. There is no approved repair. I have read some about fireplace inserts that use gas or wood.

Does anyone have experience with these inserts?
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Seek info on fireplace inserts (Original Post) Gold Metal Flake Feb 2017 OP
The gas ones work well, in my experience in Minnesota. mn9driver Feb 2017 #1
I bought a wood burning insert DUgosh Feb 2017 #2
If you are in SoCal, I doubt they will let you install a wood burning anything. HassleCat Feb 2017 #3
I was a chimney sweep in the early 1980s. rsdsharp Feb 2017 #4
Oy. Gold Metal Flake Feb 2017 #5

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
1. The gas ones work well, in my experience in Minnesota.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 05:14 PM
Feb 2017

To install, they run a stainless steel liner up the chimney. The insert and the liner don't really depend on the integrity of the old fireplace at all. Running the gas line is sometimes the trickiest part.

DUgosh

(3,059 posts)
2. I bought a wood burning insert
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 05:14 PM
Feb 2017

with blowers - on Craigslist for similar reasons. It's fabulous. Very hard to move, we built a trolley to install it.

rsdsharp

(9,218 posts)
4. I was a chimney sweep in the early 1980s.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 05:29 PM
Feb 2017

At that time (and it may be different now) a fireplace insert was essentially a specific type of wood stove which fit into the firebox of a fireplace and vented up the chimney. As a wood stove they were designed to allow the wood to burn more slowly than in a fireplace, and as a result, required cleaning at least once a year if not 2-3 times, depending on frequency of use.

At the time, I charged $45.00 to clear a fireplace/chimney, $75.00 to clean a wood stove/chimney, and $150.00 to clean a fireplace insert. The price differential was because I had to pull the insert from the firebox to be able to clean the chimney. Pulling a 300-450 pound cast iron insert by myself was no easy job, and required me to bring in concrete blocks and a heavy plywood sheet to built a platform for the insert to sit on while I worked. In short, they worked well, but I hated them.

Some quick research also indicates that an insert isn't a solution for your problem, at least with respect to a specific manufacturer of precast fireplaces.

http://swedesweep.com/rampart-chimneys/.

Gold Metal Flake

(13,805 posts)
5. Oy.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:23 PM
Feb 2017

Yup, that is the critter. I'll check with the city but I'll bet the only way to deal with this thing is to have it replaced. Sad face emoji dollar sign.

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