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muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 02:16 PM Feb 20

Carl Lewis derides plans to eradicate long jump fouls as early 'April Fools joke'

The World Athletics chief executive, Jon Ridgeon, confirmed on Monday that the governing body would be trialling a new “take-off zone” from which competitors can leap into the pit instead of the usual fixed wooden board. Ridgeon said the proposal would virtually eliminate the possibility of a foul – as athletes would be measured from where they began their jump rather than from the board.

“At the world championships in Budapest last summer, a third of all the jumps were no-jumps, athletes stepping over the front of the take-off board,” Ridgeon said on the Anything But Footy podcast. “That doesn’t work, that’s a waste of time. So we’re testing, for example, a take-off zone rather than a take-off board, so we measure from where the athlete takes off to where they land in the pit. That means every single jump counts, it adds to the jeopardy of the competition, the drama of the competition.”

World Athletics says it is also working on ensuring the new rules would not cause delays. “We will spend this year testing it in real life circumstances with very good athletes,” added Ridgeon. “If it doesn’t pass testing, we will never introduce it. This is not about next year, but making sure we have got a sport that is fit for purpose for another 150 years.”

However Lewis, who won long jump gold at four consecutive Olympic Games and whose 8.87 metres in 1991 remains third on the world all-time list, delivered a damning verdict of the proposals. “You’re supposed to wait until April 1st for April Fools jokes,” Lewis said on social media platform X. “I guess it supports what I’ve been saying, that the long is the most difficult event in track and field. That would just eliminate the most difficult skill from the event. Just make the basket larger for free throws because so many people miss them.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/feb/20/carl-lewis-derides-plans-to-eradicate-long-jump-fouls-as-early-april-fools-joke

I think Lewis has a point - you certainly couldn't compare records set in the old way with this new one. Making your steps match the take-off point is a skill, just like high-jumpers or pole-vaulters have to match the top of their arc to the bar, not in front or behind it (you could, if you wanted, just use cameras to work out the highest line a jumper/vaulter went over, and say "that's the score for them". It'd be a different competition).
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Carl Lewis derides plans to eradicate long jump fouls as early 'April Fools joke' (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Feb 20 OP
I agree with Carl Lewis. A take-off zone makes it much easier... brush Feb 20 #1
Fairly easy to do with camera technology these days muriel_volestrangler Feb 20 #2
Ok, but the bigger issue is whether you agree with Carl Lewis that the difficulty and... brush Feb 20 #3
Yes, I said that in the OP (nt) muriel_volestrangler Feb 20 #4
Sorry, didn't realize you are the OP poster. brush Feb 20 #5
He is from my hometown IbogaProject Feb 20 #6
M'Eh! ProfessorGAC Feb 20 #7

brush

(53,791 posts)
1. I agree with Carl Lewis. A take-off zone makes it much easier...
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 02:36 PM
Feb 20

to register a no-foul long jump, thus eliminating the skill that has always been part of the event.

Also, how will they measure where, under the proposed rule, the jumper takes of from, a camera, a sensor?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
2. Fairly easy to do with camera technology these days
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 20

and that would be portable - no need to build a special sensor system over a few feet.

brush

(53,791 posts)
3. Ok, but the bigger issue is whether you agree with Carl Lewis that the difficulty and...
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 03:35 PM
Feb 20

skill is being taken out of the event, this making it easier to make no-foul jumps?

IbogaProject

(2,816 posts)
6. He is from my hometown
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 04:31 PM
Feb 20

His Aunt was my Gym Teacher. I'm still angry about the 1980 Olympic boycott robbing him and his sister of their proper place in history over politics. So in this case I agree that the rule should stay the same.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
7. M'Eh!
Tue Feb 20, 2024, 08:15 PM
Feb 20

While I certainly respect Carl's vast accomplishments, this doesn't really bother me.
I was a long jumper, too. Obviously not in Carl's class, but pretty good.
My guess is that the number of potentially record breaking jumps that were fouls is reasonably small.
And, it's not like jumpers get one chance. How many meets would have a different winner under these rules. Jumpers spend hours marking their starting point to get as close to the end of the as possible. So, few lose by leaving 3 inches too far back.
The only concern I have about records is the existing great jumps where the jumper left from a centimeter or 2 behind the edge of the board. There's no way to add those centimeters back to existing records. So, if someone breaks the record by 0.01 meters, is it really the record.
But, from a spectator perspective, it's pretty boring to see someone jump 28'10" and have it be a no-jump. We watched for nothing.
Like I said, I respect Carl's opinion, I just don't agree it's that big a deal.

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