Taking on the NTS fallacy in GD.

[beam me up scottie]

I can usually resist but sometimes it really sticks in my craw. These people believe that they are morally superior, that they're better than people who aren't christians.

I have asked a few if they actually thought that they were special and, yes, they do.

Decades after I first realized this I'm still going WTF?

[Warpy]

1. Not me, I just back off

twiddling an index finger next to a temple.

I can get through to them on a one to one basis in real life, but online forums are conducive to pileons by like minded and wrong headed people so I don't bother.

[beam me up scottie]

3. You are wiser than I.

I have had a little success irl when I've asked the question, maybe because some christians have never really thought about it.

I guess if I get at least one person to think about what it's like to be a non-christian it's worth it.

[intaglio]

2. Although they say "better"

I think it's more "I'm special" - and it isn't just Christians

Mind you It isn't the No True Scotsman that winds me up, it's the cherry picking; followed by accusing people who point out context of cherry picking.

[beam me up scottie]

4. The cherry picking is part of the NTS fallacy.

But my hat's off to you, it's a much more difficult battle.

When you say it isn't just christians, are you talking about other religions, liberals, or something else?

[intaglio]

5. This thread? Other religions

Though the comment could also be applied to the many other groups. Back in the '70s and '80s I remember some science fiction fans and re-enactors would refer to people with no interest in such things "Mundanes". The Ren people would sniff at those who failed to use the most authentic materials in their armour and clothing, the Fen would say so-and-so was not a true fan of X because they also liked Y.

[beam me up scottie]

6. Sounds like a Fritz Leiber story.

There's quite a show in R/T right now, head on over there if you want to find out if you're an authentic liberal.

I wonder what these people hear when they're talking...

[progressoid]

7. NTS?

What is NTS?

I have the slow brain today.

[beam me up scottie]

8. No True Scotsman.

Can also mean Not This Shit, Nothing Too Stupid and/or Not Today Sunshine.

[progressoid]

9. Ah Thanks.

Keep up the good fight!


I can't do it much anymore. It's exhausting.

[beam me up scottie]

10. GD is an exhausting place.

10 minutes of lurking and I need to be medicated.

"Run to the bedroom, in the suitcase on the left you'll find my favourite ax!"