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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:47 AM Mar 2016

Would Harvey Milk Endorse Bernie Sanders? The Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club Just Did.

“I will tell you something that Harvey Milk understood: If you’re looking to find real compassion and kindness, go to those who know what it means to struggle, to experience the depth of alienation — and you will find all that they created to humanize themselves and others.”

“The kindness that often comes from those who struggle and support one another rather than pushing one another down — that is truly a beautiful thing.”
That is the primary similarity between Sanders and Harvey Milk.

I am angry. I am proud. I am passionately happy sometimes. That’s what it means to be human. I think we get lost when we believe we’re not supposed to be angry by what kills us. What starves us. What allows Flint to exist the way that it does? What allows all of those other cities that are worse off to stay that way? I want to make sure that we spread our voices and our message as far as possible, because I know that’s what Harvey Milk would want us to do.

#MarchForBernie Oakland where Harry Britt spoke with more than 1,000 marchers, highlighting the history of Harvey Milk, Bernie Sanders, and progressive social movements

Like many people who “feel the bern,” I grew up in a working class family in the Midwest. I was an activist there, went to grad school in Boston, and moved out to San Francisco to learn more about my history. I don’t speak for the Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club in a formal capacity, but I do speak for myself — as a member of that club who promoted this endorsement, I am immensely proud of it. I am proud to be a member of such a human organization and I wish others could experience this group in the ways I’ve been privileged enough to experience it.

Why should this endorsement matter to you? I’m not here to answer that question, but I am here to ask it and hope that you can find your answer. Most people respectfully and reasonably don’t know the answer to that question. Most of us (including myself) were robbed of REAL American history, and the queer/black/women’s/Native American social movements that brought us where we are (and aren’t) today.

Like Bernie Sanders, Harvey Milk grew up in New York as a Jewish man. Both of them grew older with an intimate understanding of the horrific impact of Adolf Hitler, war, and hatred.

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Would Harvey Milk Endorse Bernie Sanders? The Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club Just Did. (Original Post) UglyGreed Mar 2016 OP
The Harvey Milk Club is to the left of Harvey Milk. RandySF Mar 2016 #1
And most Progressives and Liberals UglyGreed Mar 2016 #2
What's the basis for that claim? Harvey's rhetoric was very much of the left. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #4
After your candidate promoted Reagan as an AIDS hero I expect straight splainers to respond to Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #7
Congratulations to Sanders on this endorsement. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #3
Harvey Milk was a visionary and empathetic to the struggles of all, I think for sure he'd have polly7 Mar 2016 #5
K&R vintx Mar 2016 #6
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. What's the basis for that claim? Harvey's rhetoric was very much of the left.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

His first election he ran as 'Harvey Milk vs The Democratic Machine'.

"What we must do is make sure that 1978 continues the movement that is really happening that the media don't want you to know about. That is the movement to the left. It's up to CDC to put the pressures on Sacramento--but to break down the walls and the barriers so the movement to the left continues and progress continues in the nation. We have before us coming up several issues we must speak out on. Probably the most important issue outside the Briggs--which we will come to--but we do know what will take place this June. We know there's an issue on the ballot called Jarvis-Gann. We hear the taxpayers talk about it on both sides. But what you don't hear is that it's probably the most racist issue on the ballot in a long time. In the city and county of San Francisco, if it passes and we indeed have to lay off people, who will they be? The last in, and the first in, and who are the last in but the minorities? Jarvis-Gann is a racist issue. We must address that issue. We must not talk away from it. We must not allow them to talk about the money it's going to save, because look at who's going to save the money and who's going to get hurt.

We also have another issue that we've started in some of the north counties and I hope in some of the south counties it continues. In San Francisco elections we're asking--at least we hope to ask-- that the U.S. government put pressure on the closing of the South African consulate. That must happen. There is a major difference between an embassy in Washington which is a diplomatic bureau. and a consulate in major cities. A consulate is there for one reason only -- to promote business, economic gains, tourism, investment. And every time you have business going to South Africa, you're promoting a regime that's offensive.

And the young gay people in the Altoona, Pennsylvanias and the Richmond, Minnesotas who are coming out and hear Anita Bryant on television and her story. The only thing they have to look forward to is hope. And you have to give them hope. Hope for a better world, hope for a better tomorrow, hope for a better place to come to if the pressures at home are too great. Hope that all will be all right. Without hope, not only gays, but the blacks, the seniors, the handicapped, the us'es, the us'es will give up. And if you help elect to the central committee and other offices, more gay people, that gives a green light to all who feel disenfranchised, a green light to move forward. It means hope to a nation that has given up, because if a gay person makes it, the doors are open to everyone."
http://www.danaroc.com/guests_harveymilk_122208.html


So show your work. What do you have to support your assertion? What's the Straight Moderate view of Harvey?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. After your candidate promoted Reagan as an AIDS hero I expect straight splainers to respond to
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

challenges of their assertions. I'm tired of that aspect of the Hillary campaign. You came here to insert an opinion unsupported by anything about a community that is not your own. To characterize historic figures you do not really know about, whom you do not cite nor quote but simply define as if he was your property.
Where are you specifics, your reasons, what issues are they to the left of Harvey on? In 1978 being out and in politics was in and of itself a wildly leftist thing to do. Radical. Militant. But you think he was a moderate? Based on what?

Either discuss or stop dropping Reaganite crap on LGBT issues.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. Congratulations to Sanders on this endorsement.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton has the NY Stonewall Democrats endorsement.

The LGBT community is diverse of opinion and that is a good thing.

Congrats on this great endorsement.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
5. Harvey Milk was a visionary and empathetic to the struggles of all, I think for sure he'd have
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

endorsed Sanders.

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