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Related: About this forumNSA wanted Hillary Clinton to use this secure Windows phone
Newly released documents under the Freedom of Information Act show that Hillary Clinton, then-secretary of state had asked the National Security Agency to supply her with the same modified, strengthened BlackBerry used by President Barack Obama.
The request was eventually denied, citing security concerns as the intelligence agency was trying to cut down on the rise in BlackBerry users across the State Department.
But because parts of Clinton's department was designated a sensitive compartmentalized facility (SCIF), an enclosed area used to prevent external eavesdropping, government policy prevented the secretary and her staff from using uncleared cellular devices.
The nearest "BlackBerry-like" solution supported by the NSA at the time was costly -- each device would cost the government about $4,750 and the secure server infrastructure (and associated costs) would add another $30,000 to the bill. But the phone itself wasn't very "BlackBerry-like" in design or ease-of-use, according to the State Department's security director at the time.
The request was eventually denied, citing security concerns as the intelligence agency was trying to cut down on the rise in BlackBerry users across the State Department.
But because parts of Clinton's department was designated a sensitive compartmentalized facility (SCIF), an enclosed area used to prevent external eavesdropping, government policy prevented the secretary and her staff from using uncleared cellular devices.
The nearest "BlackBerry-like" solution supported by the NSA at the time was costly -- each device would cost the government about $4,750 and the secure server infrastructure (and associated costs) would add another $30,000 to the bill. But the phone itself wasn't very "BlackBerry-like" in design or ease-of-use, according to the State Department's security director at the time.
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NSA wanted Hillary Clinton to use this secure Windows phone (Original Post)
LiberalArkie
Mar 2016
OP
From what I've read the state department didn't have the Infastructure to support the phone
NWCorona
Mar 2016
#10
Over the decades, once thing is certain: Anything with the word "WINDOWS" in it ISN'T SECURE! nt
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2016
#2
Octafish
(55,745 posts)1. Think OPSEC.
Clinton wants same as Obama.
Dumb NSA. Shoulda made two.
Pretty stupid of HRC to "go rogue", but why couldn't she be offered the same service as the President??
What she did get what was plausible deniability as to why she did what she did.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)8. IOT to enter the seed of doubt. Either way, they're monitored, too.
Who is at the top of the grid?
And what the hell is going if the most powerful man in the world and the most powerful woman in the world can't get a secure line?
Why can't they? Who can?
Secret Government is so un-American, it's not even funny.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)10. From what I've read the state department didn't have the Infastructure to support the phone
Obama's BlackBerry never touches a commercial cell tower.
The state department couldn't guarantee that about Hillary's.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)11. Thanks NWC.
I can make sense out of that. And like I said, she "went rogue". We don't need that.
TheBlackAdder
(28,252 posts)2. Over the decades, once thing is certain: Anything with the word "WINDOWS" in it ISN'T SECURE! nt
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)6. Yup.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)3. Phone envy
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)5. Secure? Windows?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)7. True but it was more secure than the off the shelf BlackBerry Hillary used
Not to mention the ipad.
frylock
(34,825 posts)9. It must have just eaten her up inside that Barack could have a Blackberry and she couldn't.
Who does he think he is?