2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumToo Early to Call.
So Arizona 1% reporting 63% hill to 37% Bernie wasn't too early to call....but this is. f***ing unbelievable.
Spin, HRC fans, SPIN!!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)You're countering the narrative.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)flor-de-jasmim
(2,126 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)It was blindingly obvious.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)dchill
(38,599 posts)But as we know, that doesn't mean they won't call it.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)(the revisionist history of 41% was bullshit. It was several HOURS before 41% was tallied, and people were STILL in line)! I don't think that they should call any State until over 80% of votes are tallied, and it isn't close enough to flip to another candidate.
dchill
(38,599 posts)Especially when people are still waiting in line - after several hours - to vote. It's antidemocratic, it's unethical.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)If you're standing in line and the race is called for someone--you are more likely to leave.
The media was definitely WRONG in calling the race so early for Hillary Clinton in Arizona. One percent is ridiculous to call any race. It's absurd.
It appears that so many things in AZ went Clinton's way. She naturally was going to do better with early voters in AZ.
The fuck ups with the very low number of precinct sites--combined with the media calling it early and depressing the vote--all worked in Clinton's favor. Like a charm.
She couldn't have asked for a better confluence of conditions to favor her--if she had planned it that way herself.
polly7
(20,582 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The earlier calls are usually in primaries where people vote all day long rather than at one proscribed time.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)There weren't in Arizona as well.
They really shouldn't make predictions in these cases until a big portion of the actual vote is in.
Arizona, IIRC, was called after only the early votes from Maricopa County were in. That didn't seem right IMO.
greymouse
(872 posts)I saw at least one report that an Arizona exit poll had gone for Bernie.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Is that the SPIN you wanted?
strategery blunder
(4,225 posts)The last plausible excuse for not calling it, when they called Arizona at 1%, is now gone
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)The Associated Press says Bernie Sanders has won the Washington state caucuses.
And BERNIE just announced it at his Madison, Wisconsin rally. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!
New Earth
(9,745 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)There will be no stopping him now.
A little birdie, and some blowout election returns in AK and WA, told me that.