2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDemocrats need to be worried about Hillary’s FBI problem
"A specter is haunting the Hillary Clinton campaign the specter of an FBI investigation. The possibility of an indictment for her use of a private email system as secretary of state has been looming for months now, but the story hasnt engulfed Clintons inevitability narrative. Thanks to Sanders commitment to running a positive campaign, Clintons FBI problem has scarcely been mentioned in Democratic debates.
Its entirely possible that nothing will come of this. The final result may well be a slap on the wrist and a noisy news cycle for Clinton, but thats easily endurable. Its also possible that the story has legs, that a scandal could erupt months from now in a heated general election."
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/28/democrats_need_to_be_worried_about_hillarys_fbi_problem_the_looming_political_fight_could_cause_real_damage_in_november/
onehandle
(51,122 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Won't help Hillary's situation.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)We saw what happened in the last 6 elections. Hillary and her supporters are sweating something fierce.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm not denying that Hillary has put up a great fight.
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And it's all you have.
randome
(34,845 posts)You give the word 'revolution' a bad name when you resort to hoping to win by default.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I've said that this won't necessarily help Bernie. Biden will just jump in.
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emulatorloo
(44,257 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)A lot of money flowed into the foundation from foreign countries who were actively courting Sec State for weapons deals, and weapons deals were reached.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)It's been reported that the FBI is looking into just that.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Among the most striking and troubling aspects of the Clinton System are the large contributions corporations and foreign governments have made to the Clinton Foundation, along with Bill Clintons readiness to accept six-figure speaking fees from some of them, at times when the donors themselves had a potential financial interest in decisions being made at Hillary Clintons State Department. An investigation published in April 2015 by Andrew Perez, David Sirota and Matthew Cunningham-Cook at International Business Times shows that during the three-year period from October 2009 through December 2012, when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, there were at least thirteen occasionscollectively worth $2.5 millionwhen Bill Clinton received a six-figure speaking fee from corporations or trade groups that, according to Federal Government records, were at the time engaged in lobbying at the State Department.
These payments to Bill Clinton in 2010 included: $175,000 from VeriSign Corporation, which was engaged in lobbying at the State Department on cybersecurity and Internet taxation; $175,000 from Microsoft, which was lobbying the government on the issuance of immigrant work visas; $200,000 from SalesForce, a firm that lobbied the government on digital security issues, among other things. In 2011, these payments included: $200,000 from Goldman Sachs, which was lobbying on the Budget Control Act; and $200,000 from PhRMA, the trade association representing drug companies, which was seeking special trade protections for US-innovated drugs in the Trans-Pacific Partnership then being negotiated.
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/01/30/clinton-system-donor-machine-2016-election/
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)... stop pointing to those facts. By publicly stating facts about a legitimate concern that may result in criminal charges, you are just propagating a RW smear.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Too bad the same can't be said about his surrogates.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Besides IMHO the other side has been much worse.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There seems to be an absurd level of arrogance behind running for president with baggage that can be detrimental to a campaign. Both seem to be of the mind of "who cares who gets hurt as long as my giant ego is satisfied."
agracie
(950 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)All things being equal, why not vote for the candidate who isn't being investigated by the FBI?
agracie
(950 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)her stance on TPP or her stance on Medicare and Social Security.
We're the "head in the sand" party. It will all work out just fine, if only everyone would just "toe the line".
It's all just an illusion that Democrats of today act like Republican of years ago and Republicans act like crazy people.
I love the righward tilt of the country and the corporate takeover of the Democratic Party, not quite completed.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Look at Reagan and Iran Contra.
Look at Bush and Iraq or the firing of attorneys and the same sort of email deal.
They guys at the top get a free pass unless somebody with more money wants them gone.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...but perhaps it introduces the problem gently to those who are paying little attention, and is useful in that regard.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I figured that a mild article would counter it's a RW conspiracy crowd but I know that I'm being wishful.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Scuba
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dr60omg
(283 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)indictment
2banon
(7,321 posts)Just to name a few that come to mind..
I don't believe she will ever face criminal prosecution, but I do believe it will be a monumental cluster f**k for her ultimate coronation, before during and after.
and that's an understatement. Her legal troubles could be the ultimate cause of Repuke victory in the general.
(But the Bernie supporters will be blamed for it, naturally.)