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Related: About this forumWisconsin Voter-Id Law could block 300,000 registered voters from voting
http://www.thenation.com/article/wisconsins-voter-id-law-could-block-300000-registered-voters-from-the-polls/ Johnny Randle, a 74-year-old African-American resident of Milwaukee, moved to Wisconsin from Mississippi in 2011, the same year the state legislature passed a law requiring a government-issued photo ID to cast a ballot. Randle, with the help of his daughter, petitioned the DMV to issue him a free ID for voting because he could not afford to pay for his Mississippi birth certificate.
After a five-month adjudication process, the DMV denied his request. His daughter ultimately tracked down his Mississippi birth certificate, but the name listed, Johnnie Marton Randall, did not match the name hed used his entire life, Johnny Martin Randle. The DMV said that he would either need to correct his name through the Social Security Administration and get a new Social Security card reflecting the name on his birth certificate or go to court to change his name and provide court documents reflecting that your name has legally been changed to read as Johnny M Randle. But Randle worried that any change to his Social Security information might interrupt the monthly disability payments he survives on. (This account comes from a new lawsuit challenging Wisconsins voting restrictions filed by Democratic lawyer Marc Elias, Hillary Clintons campaign counsel.)
Randle was forced to choose between his livelihood and his right to vote. As of the April 5 presidential primary, he is still not able to vote in Wisconsin. After voting without incident in the formerly Jim Crow South, he was disenfranchised when he moved to the North. Stories like Randles are why the Wisconsin Supreme Court dubbed the voter ID law a de facto poll tax and it was blocked in state and federal court until a panel of Republican-appointed judges reinstated the measure in 2014.
This is a very interesting article. I am posting it and then turning in so I won't be making any comments tonight (sorry). Also, if this a dup, I apologize for that.
Sam
elleng
(131,436 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)The "misinformed" young people who don't know how to research a candidate's prior positions and flip-flops are disadvantaged apparently, and they're big fans of this.
mcar
(42,475 posts)LisaM
(27,863 posts)Gothmog
(146,005 posts)I have read the latest petition and some of the pleadings. Here is a link that has all of the filings (there is a lag of a day or so between the actual filing and going on the website) http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/OneWisconsin.v.Nichol.php The Second Amended Petition is well done http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/SECONDAMENDEDCOMPLAINTagainstAllDefendants032516.pdf
This case goes to trial in May. It will be a fun case to watch as Marc is a great attorney. Unfortunately, there is a good chance that this Wisconsin voter id law will be in effect for the November election. The Texas voter id law was struck down a while back and 7 federal judges have ruled against the law but it is still in effect.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I don't.
Gothmog
(146,005 posts)The Clinton campaign is based on supporting voting rights which is why Elias is filing these lawsuits. The Clinton platform is one of the best set of proposals to protect the right to vote that I have seen and this is one of my passions. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/voting-rights/
Repairing the Voting Rights Act. Congress should move quickly to pass legislation that would fix the damage done to the Voting Rights Act by the Supreme Court and restore the full protections American voters need and deserve. These protections are crucial for young and minority voters, seniors, and other underrepresented groups disproportionately affected by harmful Republican efforts to restrict voting.
Setting a new national standard for early voting. Its time to set a standard across our country of at least 20 days of early in-person voting, including opportunities for evening and weekend voting. This will reduce long lines and give more people an opportunity to vote, especially those who have work or family obligations during the day. Early in-person voting isnt just convenientits also more secure, more reliable, and more affordable than absentee voting.
Implementing universal, automatic voter registration. Every citizen in every state should be automatically registered to vote when they turn 18, unless they choose to opt out. At the same time, we need to make sure that registration rolls are secure, up to date, and accurate. When you move, your registration should move with you. Modernizing registration will add tens of millions of voters to the rolls, cost less, and reduce the potential for errors or irregularities.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I don't understand how it is still law if the case has been adjudicated? Is it a problem of enforcement (I can't imagine how, though). Do you have any other information where I can research?
Thanks for the link, by the way.
Gothmog
(146,005 posts)In Texas, the voter id law was struck down but the case is on appeal and the 5th Circuit enjoyed the mandate of the law. 7 federal judges has found that the Texas voter id law violated Section 2 of the voting rights act but the law remains in effect. The entire 5th Circuit will hear the appeal of the texas vote id case en banclate in May and there is a decent chance that there will not be a ruling until after the November election. The private plaintiffs in the Texas case are appealing for relief to the SCOTUS but relief is unlikey with a 4 to 4 split. Here is a link to all of the pleadings and briefs in the Texas case http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/VeaseyV.Perry.php
In Wisconsin, the Federal Circuit court upheld the law in a poorly written opinion that claimed that you cannot fly under TSA regulations without a drivers' license. The case was appealed to the SCOTUS and cert was denied. Marc Elias sued after this on the basis that the law as applied violates Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and will be making the same arguments and using similar evidence as was used in the Texas case. There was a ruling that some of the earlier claims were resolved in the first case and Elias was able to convince the court to let him file a new set of pleadings and to litigate these issues on a different basis than the first case. In addition, Elias has added some new claims that the State of Wisconsin is not giving free birth certificates and other documents so that the law is a poll tax. This is a well pled case and the Wisconsin case is scheduled in May. Again, I will look later but I rely on reading the actual briefs and rulings in these cases. The link to all of the rulings and pleadings in this case is here http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/OneWisconsin.v.Nichol.php
There will be more as the 5th Cir. case and the Elias Wisconsin case proceeds.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)In your opinion, how do you think both cases will play out in May?
pnwmom
(109,026 posts)And will hurt the whole party in November.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)quantass
(5,505 posts)elleng
(131,436 posts)republican governors etc have made it more and more difficult to obtain them, especially for those who don't drive (elderly, for example,) students who live 'out of state,' those who never had birth certificates (African-American southerners,) and cost, as above, etc. It's become a dishonest political football.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)I dont care if you are born with an ID stamped on your forehead, it is NOT necessary when it comes to voting.
rpannier
(24,352 posts)If not, start there
If so, did you see the part about the spelling and his disability
BTW: If you live in (I think it's) Alsip WI, their offices are opened on the 5th Wednesday of every month from 4-5 and that's it
So good luck getting one
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I mean, that may hurt the 1% a little. I mean that could be the difference between 5 or 6 mansions, if the wrong people were allowed to vote.
Duh!
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)lark
(23,203 posts)Only old white men need vote in WI - according to Scott Walker and his Koch brothers mafia. They are totally disgusting and the justice dept. needs to intervene.
SpankMe
(2,976 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)The local media has been discussing it quite frequently for years.
FTR, I agree with Gwen Moore's assessment of it: http://www.gwenmooreforcongress.com/wisconsins-regressive-voter-id-law-its-about-suppressing-the-vote/
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Response to Samantha (Original post)
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Highway61
(2,568 posts)didn't work the first time
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/04/3766032/wisconsin-voter-id-students/
progree
(10,953 posts)deliberately and unnecessarily.
pnwmom
(109,026 posts)Other voters had it much harder.
progree
(10,953 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:26 PM - Edit history (1)
I still found it an interesting article about how the legislature / Gov. Walker put in as many obstacles as possible. Some of the below were targeted at students specifically:
The fact that they accept all kinds of IDs -- besides drivers licenses (even expired ones), they accept passport, tribal ID, military ID, and veterans ID, but not accepting regular student IDs from most colleges
Accepting even expired drivers licenses, but student IDs must be less than 2 years old
and a student must bring additionally proof of enrollment (no other demographic is asked to bring additional information along with a valid ID)
And while poll workers are only mandated to look at a persons name and photo on most IDs, when examining student IDs they must also check for a signature
And not all colleges are providing these special IDs
And the legislature provided "almost nothing" (per the article) for funding for voter education on the new ID requirements. Apparently, from the article, some colleges haven't been doing much of that either.
Nothing like standing in line for an hour or more to vote, only to be told that you have to have proof of enrollment, or your ID is more than 2 years old, yada, too bad.
I'm not claiming that students are the most peed-upon demographic, but the legislature peed on them about as much as they constitutionally could (arguably constitutionally).
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Walker's Wisconsin- bears almost no resemblance to the place I've lived for all but two of my 51 years.
Gothmog
(146,005 posts)Marc Elias, the chief counsel for the Clinton Victory Counsel program, is busy suing the GOP and fighting GOP vote suppression http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/voting-rights-lawsuits-_n_7594960.html
The attorney, Marc Elias, is involved in lawsuits challenging measures passed in Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin, arguing that laws cutting back early voting, restricting registration and requiring photo identification to vote, among other measures, disproportionately impact racial minorities.
Conservatives have argued such measures protect against voter fraud, and have called the lawsuits a political effort to energize Democratic voters. The financial involvement of the billionaire liberal philanthropist George Soros, who is supporting the suits, has only incensed them further.
There are high stakes to the lawsuits, as the Supreme Court displayed a certain skepticism about federal voting rights legislation when it struck down a key section of the landmark Voting Rights Act in 2013. That provision had required states and localities with a history of voting discrimination to first clear any changes to their voting laws with the federal government or in federal court. The VRA still bars voting procedures that discriminate against racial minorities, but the strength of that section hasnt been tested since the courts controversial decision two years ago.
So, while the politics of Elias cases have attracted most of the attention Clinton recently decried measures supported by Republican governors, like fellow presidential hopeful Scott Walker of Wisconsin there is an equivalent amount of intrigue on the legal side. Some of the provisions targeted in the lawsuits, like Wisconsins voter identification law, have already been challenged, while others, like Virginias photo ID law, havent yet seen the inside of a courtroom.
The GOP is very good at voter suppression and I am glad that Marc is fighting against the GOP. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin voter id law will be in effect for Tuesday primary. The Elias lawsuit is schedule to go to trial in May
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)she works to fix them. And for all of you who are saying there is no need to help down ticket Dems, these GOP efforts to rob people of their rights...voting, reproductive, etc... are exactly why you are wrong.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who is fighting this in court.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/voting-rights-lawsuits-_n_7594960.html
Where's Bernie?
pnwmom
(109,026 posts)by this happening in the General.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)could decide this election. Easily.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)would face the same problem....
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)red dog 1
(27,939 posts)As are most Republican Governors, Lt. Governors, state Attorneys General, & state legislatures,
The USA has been taken over by K Street "plants" like the governors of:
Wisconsin...Scott Walker
Michigan....Rick Snyder
Texas.....Greg Abbott
Ohio.....John Kasich
Florida...Rick Scott
and many more states as well.
"If You Don't Know About The K Street Project, You Don't Know Jack"
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/01/13/3188/k-street-project/
It's like a real life version of the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"
These Repukes couldn't win elections fairly, so they "rigged them" and gave us
Scott Walker, Rick Snyder, Greg Abbott, Rick Scott and God only knows how many
United States Congressmen & U.S. Senators
Prompted For a New American Century (PNAC)
The K Street Project
Voting Machine Tampering
Voter-ID Laws
How could the people of Wisconsin have elected Scott Walker?
(answer) They didn't!
"How did Scott Walker Ever Become Governor of Wisconsin?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016128214
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Welcome to the Land of the Free (certain restrictions apply) and the Home of the Brave (not available in all areas).