Current Delegate Totals: Clinton - 1739 / Sanders - 1070 / Need to nominate: 2,383.

[Alfresco]

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D-PU.phtml

[dana_b]

1. minus the SDs

come on... you know better.

[Buzz Clik]

6. Nope. The superdelegates are part of the equation.

The Sanders camp doesn't like that (today), but that's reality.

[HumanityExperiment]

11. SD's already voted? go figure...

Oh wait...

[Buzz Clik]

14. Even if the supers break in the same proportion as the pledged, Sanders is in deep trouble.

You guys keep looking for rainbows where there aren't any.

I guess it's better than being depressed.

[HumanityExperiment]

20. Laughable...

SD 'pledged' to a particular candidate create the optics, but now with the ongoing primary process the voters in each state are showing SDs the error in that calculation... so there is that

22 remaining primaries, 56% or better through each for Bernie to beat HRC

tick tock... momentum and surge is happening, one candidate is rising in that regard whereas another is sweating out each of these remaining primaries with either plateaued or failing support... take a guess as to which candidate fits those two scenarios

rainbows indeed...

[Buzz Clik]

23. Tick tick indeed.

We will compare notes in June.

[HumanityExperiment]

24. Notes...

I'm comparing them now, why wait... we have data and facts now, each primary provides us with quite a bit to talk about

I get that HRC and her supporters are adverse to that but what the heck... these 22 remaining primaries allow the 'boxing match' to be called with each round eh?

[Buzz Clik]

25. You want to go full on quantitative?

I will start a new thread this evening after WI is in and post the link here.

You won't like what you see.

[bkkyosemite]

27. why you have inside info on a fixed (in HRC's) favor or something

[HumanityExperiment]

32. 'Full quantitative'...

sure whatevs...

trends and patterns... not too difficult, I understand what I see so my liking it or not doesn't matter as it pertains to the facts and data now does it?

[Buzz Clik]

33. Look, you were complaining that HRC supporters don't like looking at the numbers...

... so offered looking at the numbers. If honestly don't care, I'll save myself the work of posting them.

[HumanityExperiment]

35. I don't complain about facts and data...

SDs 'pledged' before they have actually voted, that creates optics as if someone is already 'ahead' of another even before the first primary ballot was cast...

This is a fact

Each primary is a microcosm of the larger context and with each primary those data points matter as it relates to trending, so feel free to 'offer up' whatever you have

I know that you DO care otherwise you wouldn't be here posting trying to spin this

If you have something to offer in terms of facts and data then get to it, otherwise all you have is spin

[morningfog]

36. Look, the point is the pledged delegate winner will be the nominee.

Bernie's path to victory, the only path, is to secure a majority of the pledged delegates. At which point, enough supers will go to him to secure the nomination.

That is why the super delegates, at this point, are irrelevant.

[silvershadow]

2. I see you are using the inflated numbers. nt

[casperthegm]

21. As if we don't know better

That might work on some members of the general public, but that crap isn't going to fly here. Pretty insulting honestly.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

3. Wrong...

Superdelegates do not vote until July 25th.

[NuclearDem]

10. ...

[Kalidurga]

4. Supers can switch if they feel the need or the Bern.

Stranger things have happened. Like when they did it for Obama.

[Buzz Clik]

9. But, they aren't feeling the bern -- in huge numbers.

[Kalidurga]

13. It's April lets see what happens in June and July

[Schema Thing]

22. Well, they better if they don't want to ruin the party

y'know, young voters and all that. A vote for Hillary is a vote for status quo, and the status quo is Oligarchy. Not cool.


I suppose a "conservative" party could rise from the ashes of the GOP, but even better would be a Progressive party filling the vacuum left by the GOP implosion.

[Lizzie Poppet]

5. Superdelegates? All I need to know.

Buh-bye...

[djean111]

7. Somewhere there must be a wall with the sad, pathetic little remains of this kind of thing

lying in greasy clumps at its bottom. Oscar Madison himself would have given up quite a while ago.

[fun n serious]

8. "pie in the sky"

seems to be contagious...

[Buzz Clik]

15. +1

[jillan]

16. Super delegates have not voted yet. But you knew that.

[Nanjeanne]

17. It's just weird that Clinton supporters feel the need to use Superdelegates to inflate the lead.

She's ahead in pledged delegates. The SD will get their say after the voters have spoken. If she's the bestest candidate ever - and the one the voters want -- then her pledged delegate count should be sufficient for gloating.

[fun n serious]

18. Why not?

I think it is sufficient.

[pdsimdars]

28. Kind of like Trump feeling the need to talk about how big his hands are . . . . . . .similar thing

[SFnomad]

19. At the beginning of the primary season, after the initial states voted/caucused

Sanders cheerleaders stated that if Secretary Clinton were to steal the election via Superdelegates that it would "tear the Democratic Party apart".

Now that it's pretty clear that stealing the election is the only path to victory for Sanders ... where are those cheerleaders now?

[lastone]

29. "stealing the election"

Just what the fuck are you talking about - "stealing the election" explain yourself, the Sanders camp is doing no such thing and if anything the HRC and DNC camps have done everything in their formatiable power to shut down the Sanders Campaign, so explain your self or shut the fuck up with this bullshit.

[SFnomad]

31. I explained myself in the post

If you can't understand what I wrote ... I can't help you.

[lastone]

34. LOL you sure did and it made NO SENSE!

"stealing the election" - really, from who the rigged for Hillary DNC, hopefully he can overcome ALL the bullshit that he's had to endure and steal it away from the corp interests currently ruining democracy.

ps, your reply was pathetically weak, nt though...

[pdsimdars]

26. you should just report the PLEDGED delegates.

[bkkyosemite]

30. I'm sick of them MSM and Hillary supporters (I saw their other post in their group)

using the SD's.

Also ran by Faux News and some woman was saying Bernie needs to get in the 60's and he hasn't done that except for Vermont and NH. Such BS. such lies and such trying to get low information voters to vote the lies...but those voters ...they are getting informed and Feelin the Bern.