Sanders Over the Edge

[Cary]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/opinion/sanders-over-the-edge.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fpaul-krugman&action=click&contentCollection=opinion&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection&_r=0&referer=http://www.nytimes.com/column/paul-krugman


Paul Krugman
From the beginning, many and probably most liberal policy wonks were skeptical about Bernie Sanders. On many major issues — including the signature issues of his campaign, especially financial reform — he seemed to go for easy slogans over hard thinking. And his political theory of change, his waving away of limits, seemed utterly unrealistic.

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Yet going on about big banks is pretty much all Mr. Sanders has done. ....

And the timing of the Sanders rant was truly astonishing. Given her large lead in delegates — based largely on the support of African-American voters, who respond to her pragmatism because history tells them to distrust extravagant promises — Mrs. Clinton is the strong favorite for the Democratic nomination.

Is Mr. Sanders positioning himself to join the “Bernie or bust” crowd, walking away if he can’t pull off an extraordinary upset, and possibly helping put Donald Trump or Ted Cruz in the White House? If not, what does he think he’s doing?

The Sanders campaign has brought out a lot of idealism and energy that the progressive movement needs. It has also, however, brought out a streak of petulant self-righteousness among some supporters. Has it brought out that streak in the candidate, too?

[dchill]

1. Wow. Completely fact-free!

[Cary]

7. Yeah I heard that bumper sticker slogan too

[dchill]

11. Read it.

[Cary]

14. I did. And I understood it too

I'd try to explain it to you but it's already well said, in plain English.

[daleanime]

2. The places he has to be willing to go to....

to debate Hillary.

[NWCorona]

3. Look at the articles he wrote about Obama then get back to me

[Bonobo]

4. Given where we are in 2016, it is the "same old same old" that is the insane position.

If Bernie IS over the edge, it is a mark in his favor.

He KNOWS what time it is.

[seattleite]

5. Yawn.

[pdsimdars]

6. Shame how much a Nobel Prize winner has fallen. . . to being no more economist but political schill

And we have well respected economists coming out almost daily now, saying Bernie knows exactly what he is doing and saying. And Krugman sells out his name and respect like this. Shame. But people are telling us who they are and when they do, we need to pay attention.

[Cary]

8. Can you summarize the actual debate...

between Krugman and your amorphous "well respected economists?"

No. Of course not. And neither can Sanders.

There's nothing wrong with Krugman. The fact that you just don't like his opinion is a comment about yourself.

[jillan]

10. There are 170 economists that agree with Bernie - take your pick!

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/14/170-economists-bernie-sanders-plan-reform-wall-st-rein-greed.html

[Cary]

16. So you confirm my conclusion.

You're just not into specifics.

Well done.

[jillan]

18. Excuse me, I just assumed that you were able to click on a link and read.

[Cary]

20. If I were like you then yes I'd have to make up an excuse

Alas, I'm not so I'm good. Thanks though.

[jillan]

9. Funny - the Pope doesn't think so. The Pope is praising Bernie for his vision for the planet & the

money changers.

But whatever Krugman.....

[dchill]

12. There you go, playing the Pope Card!

[jillan]

13. I can't help it. The Pope > Krugman. It kinda puts these silly posts in perspective.

[dchill]

15. Seems like 170 economists > Krugman ...

Should have done it. But Hillarized minds don't want to know.

[jillan]

17. Not to mention Robert Reich, Bill Clinton's Sec of Labor, endorsing Bernie.

We can sit here all morning and make lists of people > Krugman.

[dchill]

19. Let's call a truce!