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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:17 PM Apr 2016

Questions About Bernie's College Plan

We've all heard Bernie promise free college tuition for everyone, but I have serious questions about the feasibility of his plan that I have yet to hear him address.

1) Do we have the infrastructure to accept the influx of new students and students who would have gone to private universities into the public education system? Or would we have several years of sub-standard education while we get up to speed?

2) What is stopping the universities from double-dipping, and shifting much of the original cost into room, board, and fees? Couldn't they, in theory, get twice the income stream?

3) What is stopping the universities from continuing to raise tuition prices at astronomical rates? If the government is paying the tab, the students and their families won't know or care about the cost. We could wind up getting bilked.

Those concerns are beyond the question of how Republican governors and legislatures will be convinced to pump billions of dollars they don't have into this system.

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Questions About Bernie's College Plan (Original Post) CrowCityDem Apr 2016 OP
Kinda cool that we are talking about it, though, right? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #1
Yes, but lots of false information out there. I did a lot of phone banking in riversedge Apr 2016 #4
Government in the Red states probably will not kick in---as Sanders plan kicks to the states riversedge Apr 2016 #2
Answers to your questions Yavin4 Apr 2016 #3
To be fair, I think most of those things can be handled fairly easily. Clinton's plan has much the Hoyt Apr 2016 #5
Check this out kennetha Apr 2016 #6
Wow... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #7

riversedge

(70,466 posts)
4. Yes, but lots of false information out there. I did a lot of phone banking in
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

WI for Dem Party. I lost tract of the number of Bernie supporters to actually believed they would have Free college--all expenses paid. they also did not know that Sanders plan requires each state to kick in some (TBA). WI rejected Medicaid for all. And no way Walker would kick in for Higher ed. He already cut millions from Universities.

riversedge

(70,466 posts)
2. Government in the Red states probably will not kick in---as Sanders plan kicks to the states
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

to kick in a share of the tuition. It will end up like Medicaid for all. Red state students get left behind. WI, KS--for sure have already dramatically cut back on higher ed.


....3) What is stopping the universities from continuing to raise tuition prices at astronomical rates? If the government is paying the tab, the students and their families won't know or care about the cost. We could wind up getting bilked.

Those concerns are beyond the question of how Republican governors and legislatures will be convinced to pump billions of dollars they don't have into this system.

Yavin4

(35,455 posts)
3. Answers to your questions
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

1) We don't have the infrastructure. So these colleges will raise their admission standards which will hurt students from poor performing educational districts.

2) Nothing. Higher academia rips off the American middle class more than the banks have ever done. They will continue to do so.

3) Nothing. Again, big academia in this country is a major business like the banks and the media. Tuition has risen faster than the rate of inflation forever. Yet, you don't hear a peep about it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. To be fair, I think most of those things can be handled fairly easily. Clinton's plan has much the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

same issues because the main difference with Sanders is that she would have families that have the means pay for a big chunk of their kid's education. I agree with that. I think private schools would remain private, except for those for-profit "colleges" that really don't prepare students for anything other than avoid getting scammed again in the future. There will still be a lot of kids who don't go to college.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
7. Wow...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

replace college verbiage with ACA and it harkens back to the GOP talking points used against Obama while trying to get the ACA passed

We've all heard Bernie promise ACA for everyone, but I have serious questions about the feasibility of his plan that I have yet to hear him address.

1) Do we have the infrastructure to accept the influx of new patients and patients who would have gone to doctors and hospitals into the healthcare system? Or would we have several years of sub-standard healthcare while we get up to speed?

2) What is stopping the doctors and hospitals from double-dipping, and shifting much of the original cost into fees? Couldn't they, in theory, get twice the income stream?

3) What is stopping the doctors and hospitals from continuing to raise prices at astronomical rates? If the government is paying the tab, the students and their families won't know or care about the cost. We could wind up getting bilked.

Those concerns are beyond the question of how governors and legislatures will be convinced to pump billions of dollars they don't have into this system.


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