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GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:39 PM Apr 2016

I'm done with Bernie Sanders Salon piece written by a 2008 Clinton Campaign staffer

http://www.rimaregas.com/2016/04/salon-anti-berniesanders-piece-written-by-08-clinton-staffer-chrissosa-msm-on-blog42/

Chris Sosa wrote a piece for Salon entitled “I’m done with Bernie Sanders: Why this democratic socialist is voting for Hillary Clinton.” There is nothing unusual about people changing their political bents, especially in their youth. The problem? Its author, Chris Sosa, is a Clinton 08 campaign alum.

From Chris Sosa’s LinkedIn profile:

Area Leader
Hillary Clinton Campaign
July 2007 – February 2008 (8 months)
Participated in organizational campaign conference calls led by Hillary Clinton. Utilized the campaign’s online call-center/database to contact individual voters regarding voter needs and awareness.

Now, it is possible that he might have become a Democratic Socialist after leaving the Clinton campaign’s employ, but… he posted this on Twitter in 2015:



Sosa’s Twitter timeline is full of tweets in which he complains about Sanders supporters harassing him. But, in the words of a former boss, Bernie Bros are like unicorns, we all know what they look like, but no one has actually seen one.

How likely is it he was ever a Democratic Socialist who switched allegiance to Hillary Clinton? You decide.
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I'm done with Bernie Sanders Salon piece written by a 2008 Clinton Campaign staffer (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 OP
Chris Sosa is a liar. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #1
If she supports Hillary she will be helping everyone: Sanders is about himself lewebley3 Apr 2016 #10
.. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #13
Give my regards to the goatee universe people...when you get home. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #14
...and up is down in this little section of the universe. nt artislife Apr 2016 #51
... Fumesucker Apr 2016 #2
Well, golly! Who could have guessed?! Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #3
Another dirty trick. Wow, what a surprise. Skwmom Apr 2016 #38
Why would anyone care what that fucking nobody thinks? 99Forever Apr 2016 #4
Who gives a crap what this douche thinks? nichomachus Apr 2016 #5
I've Never Trusted That Site Bodych Apr 2016 #6
Figures, we've seen fake supporters here too. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #7
I think I have seen tons of fake supporters here - trying to make you look like bettyellen Apr 2016 #17
You mean the ones who pretended to support Bernie but lied about him? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
those, but more numerous are the ones who personally insult other voters. bettyellen Apr 2016 #20
Or anti-Semitic or pretend to support one candidate so they can troll others. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #21
I have not seen nearly as much of that. Did see someone compare Clinton supporters to "good bettyellen Apr 2016 #23
I saw one person link to Stormfront so they could smear Bernie. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24
that is disgusting!! I hope they banned that poster. All that shit is beneath contempt. bettyellen Apr 2016 #25
No, they didn't. One of the others was banned but only for using a sock while on a time out. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #26
I truly wish they would. Some people seem to just want to stir shit and bait others and I think it bettyellen Apr 2016 #30
Do you ever get the feeling that CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #31
That is an interesting idea! HA! I know some people have always been here just to fuck around.... bettyellen Apr 2016 #32
I agree that those are rat fuckers, but so are the antisemitic posters and the homophobes.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #61
Well, the Clinton camp did announce their new all-powerful CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #8
Basically all of her mouthpieces are like that, either they present themselves or their household Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #9
like i said on an earlier thread.. we know how to find your history on the internets Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #11
I was pretty active in the 2008 primary for Obama Trenzalore Apr 2016 #12
Phony baloney piece of shit! BuelahWitch Apr 2016 #15
Was he ever for Sanders??? reformist2 Apr 2016 #16
No that is the point of the article... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #18
Wow. The dishonesty is amazing. reformist2 Apr 2016 #22
Of course he was full of shit. djean111 Apr 2016 #27
HRC - HRC Campaign - Some HRC Supporters - Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Apr 2016 #28
Apparently CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #29
Good to see they are removing comments . TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #33
LYING LIARS AND THE LIES THEY TELL! mhatrw Apr 2016 #34
I'm shocked....shocked! CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #35
This meme seems to overtaking pope-gate noiretextatique Apr 2016 #36
What a surprise! NOT. It's all smoke and mirrors. Skwmom Apr 2016 #37
Chris Sosa.... bvar22 Apr 2016 #39
Yet another fake Bernie supporter pretending to switch from him to Hillary. cui bono Apr 2016 #40
But this person didn't even set up fake credentials. delrem Apr 2016 #44
What? I have no idea what you are trying to say. n/t cui bono Apr 2016 #45
I'm saying that this person who wrote the "I'm done with Bernie" piece delrem Apr 2016 #48
Okay, I agree with that. cui bono Apr 2016 #49
Oh, they can't. delrem Apr 2016 #50
Well they look happy in the pic. Do you have something against happiness? delrem Apr 2016 #41
Lol, you do know that is Chelsea Clinton right... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #43
Nope. I saw the resemblance, but I didn't know it. delrem Apr 2016 #46
Berniebutters. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #42
now there is a product worth handing out to vascillators reddread Apr 2016 #56
The delectable electabilty Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #57
hahhahah reddread Apr 2016 #58
Early b.s. detection CobaltBlue Apr 2016 #47
I'm disgusted k8conant Apr 2016 #52
Another Clinton surrogate, another lying pile of shit. It's who they are. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #53
I've lost count of all the lies, manipulation, and dirty tricks Nyan Apr 2016 #54
Yeah, it seems like people do change their minds. blue neen Apr 2016 #55
He didn't blame it on Sanders supporters like the fake Bernie people on DU though. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Apr 2016 #60
It was a thought experiment, maybe, a "what if" Babel_17 Apr 2016 #62
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
10. If she supports Hillary she will be helping everyone: Sanders is about himself
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Bodych

(133 posts)
6. I've Never Trusted That Site
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

In fact, I don't trust a lot of "progressive" sites. But I did see the original piece when it appeared...how could he "be done" with Sanders?

And now this latest news, which I wouldn't have seen you not referenced it here.

Chris Sosa is a disingenuous dirt-bag. Hell, with people like that on one's side, I wonder how they face the mirror each new day.

Thanks for posting this. I'm sickened by it, but now more informed.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I think I have seen tons of fake supporters here - trying to make you look like
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

pedantic narrow minded and hateful people. I don;t know any SBS supporters in real life like that.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. You mean the ones who pretended to support Bernie but lied about him?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

I especially love the one who "switched" to Hillary three times!

So authentic!


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
20. those, but more numerous are the ones who personally insult other voters.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

I firmly believe that those using terms like "Stockholm Syndrome" and "Low info voters" are nothing but rat fuckers.
The progressive people I know in real life are not that stupid or mean.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
21. Or anti-Semitic or pretend to support one candidate so they can troll others.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Yes I know exactly what you mean.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
23. I have not seen nearly as much of that. Did see someone compare Clinton supporters to "good
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:22 PM
Apr 2016

germans" and think anyone bringing in Nazi references is obviously a shit stirrer of the worst kind.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
24. I saw one person link to Stormfront so they could smear Bernie.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

More than one has compared him to Hitler, I saw another post a rabidly anti-Semitic article from a Holocaust denier's website, yet another post the Yiddish n-word, one accused Bernie of being funded by Israel, another called him Israel's #1 shill, one went off on Jews using hate speech at another website, and one super awesome Hillary supporter called him "an old crusty Jew". Then there are the ones who question the race of PoC and the gender of women who support Bernie.

And if you go elsewhere you'll see even worse from her supporters.

Glad you asked.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
25. that is disgusting!! I hope they banned that poster. All that shit is beneath contempt.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

It is one thing to discuss demographics, but some people take it to a horrible place. None of us needs to see that shit here.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
26. No, they didn't. One of the others was banned but only for using a sock while on a time out.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:47 PM
Apr 2016

And thanks for saying that, I agree, both sides are guilty of over the top rhetoric and it needs to be called out by everyone. Juries need to step up and hide the worst of the crap.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. I truly wish they would. Some people seem to just want to stir shit and bait others and I think it
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

is incredibly unproductive. I think shit like that turns off good people.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
31. Do you ever get the feeling that
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016

Some of the more crazy, wild threads are just paid trolls fighting with paid trolls?

Talk about spinning your wheels in the most laughable waste of time EVER!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
32. That is an interesting idea! HA! I know some people have always been here just to fuck around....
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

and say outrageous shit. I think more of them want to discredit DU and Dems in general. (So maybe paid?!?!)
Or they are just miserable and bored as heck.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
61. I agree that those are rat fuckers, but so are the antisemitic posters and the homophobes....
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:49 AM
Apr 2016

The Jew baiting has been allowed to go uncontested and those who have openly used slurs were welcomed back by Skinner to continue their work. It's just a fact.
Stockholm thread was aimed at LGBT as well, and I sure let that rat fucker know what I thought in great detail. So did BMUS. I never, ever see a Clinton supporter stand up to the rat fuckers posing as Hillary supporters.
We have had more than one poster who spent months bashing at Bernie relentlessly who was then found to be bigoted against Jews. So they come to bash the minority candidate because they hold bias against that minority and that is allowed by DU and protected by basher's cohort and that is very and fully wrong.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. Well, the Clinton camp did announce their new all-powerful
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

super-duper amazing strategy to finally beat Bernie, "Disqualify, Defeat and then Unify."

This must be part of the "Disqualify" portion of the show, I'm guessing.

It's riveting and so effective!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Basically all of her mouthpieces are like that, either they present themselves or their household
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

as unrelated to the Clinton campaign when there is very strong relation. It very unethical.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
11. like i said on an earlier thread.. we know how to find your history on the internets
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

No more re-writing it without consequences

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
12. I was pretty active in the 2008 primary for Obama
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

Amazed at the number of people that were against Clinton in 08 that are for her this year...including myself.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
18. No that is the point of the article...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

Be wary of all the articles that say someone changed their mind on Bernie... investigate their history. Chris Sosa was going to Clinton events during 2015, so he would to have had to change support twice.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
27. Of course he was full of shit.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016

I think the pathetic aim was to have us read that and go oh, gee, me too!

Never, because she will always be fond of war and fracking and those trade gouges and is a Third Way Neoliberal war hawk. So nothing about Bernie could persuade me to support that stuff. ISSUES.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
33. Good to see they are removing comments .
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

One must keep up appearances apparently , can't have the common people muddying the propaganda .

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
36. This meme seems to overtaking pope-gate
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

There is a similar post in the HRC group. If you recall, there were another spate of these "I used to support Bernie..." posts a month or so ago.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
40. Yet another fake Bernie supporter pretending to switch from him to Hillary.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:39 AM
Apr 2016

*yawn* Such an old and tired ploy. I mean really, this was done on DU starting MONTHS ago. Although I don't think they've all come out of hiding quite yet.

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delrem

(9,688 posts)
44. But this person didn't even set up fake credentials.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

Big money made it so easy that even morons can do it.
How come you aren't cashing in?

delrem

(9,688 posts)
48. I'm saying that this person who wrote the "I'm done with Bernie" piece
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

didn't even bother to set up some kind of base.

So I'm agreeing with the OP. To quote from the source:
"Chris Sosa wrote a piece for Salon entitled “I’m done with Bernie Sanders: Why this democratic socialist is voting for Hillary Clinton.” There is nothing unusual about people changing their political bents, especially in their youth. The problem? Its author, Chris Sosa, is a Clinton 08 campaign alum."

As a frequenter of DU and esp. so of DU discussion of issues related to Sanders, you know that most "I'm done with Bernie" and "I'm a Bernie supporter, but..." OPs are preceded by some kind of commitment statement to the Sanders group at DU. There's some attempt to make a front, first. Then there's the "but I'm ready for Hillary now!" OP. Like MM. This Salon guy didn't see a need for even that, and Salon agreed publishing that kind ofr purest bullshit, not even supported by a pretense, is OK.

That's part of what I'm saying.

(eta: OH! I just realized that you might be most confused about my direct question "How come you aren't cashing in?".
That's a question I would ask ANYONE. I think money in US politics is so unleashed that I wonder how anyone could resist.
I don't mean how can anyone resist until they're offered the opportunity, I mean how can anyone resist after they've been offered the opportunity. Although the question was addressed to you, I didn't mean it "personally", as some kind of accusation. I meant it generally.)

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
49. Okay, I agree with that.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

I honestly don't see how it is possible for anyone to switch their support from a movement candidate who is about breaking up the banks and getting money out of politics - real change - to someone who is beholden to that very thing. It's inconceivable.

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delrem

(9,688 posts)
41. Well they look happy in the pic. Do you have something against happiness?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:44 AM
Apr 2016

But the young woman in the pic, did she have something tattooed under her eyes, mimicking exaggerated lashes?
What the fuck is it with that?

Maybe it's "edgy".

delrem

(9,688 posts)
46. Nope. I saw the resemblance, but I didn't know it.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

Hey, expect to see a lot more of Chelea Clinton after her mom is anointed.
Prepare to like it, because you couldn't be a Dem if you didn't.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
56. now there is a product worth handing out to vascillators
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:47 AM
Apr 2016

different seasonings and themes.
Garlic and Herb Freedomization Butter
Black Olives Matter Spread
oh the possibilities!

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
47. Early b.s. detection
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:56 AM
Apr 2016

There was an early response in the Comments section, from that Salon.com article, that called out the fraud Chris Sosa.

(Its title gave him away.)

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
54. I've lost count of all the lies, manipulation, and dirty tricks
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:43 AM
Apr 2016

By the Clinton campaign and their minions this election cycle.
So this is the "Clinton machine" they keep talking about. The machine runs on lies.

blue neen

(12,336 posts)
55. Yeah, it seems like people do change their minds.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:38 AM
Apr 2016

For instance, like this guy:


"I’m a Liberal Democrat. I’m Voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Here Is Why."
11/17/2014 03:31 am ET | Updated Jan 17, 2015

H. A. Goodman

<snip>

"Rand Paul is my candidate in 2016, even though the Tea Party would consider me Joseph Stalin’s love child. I’m for immigration reform and believe that illegal immigrants benefit this country. I’ve written many articles criticizing Tea Party paranoia. I’m against demagoguery from people like Paul Ryan who unfairly target inner city citizens and I’m for the federal legalization of gay marriage and marijuana. I think Ted Cruz is a buffoon and that we should listen to Stephen Hawking over Senator “Green Eggs and Ham” on climate change. Finally, I’ve also written two novels about the evils of religious fundamentalism and political demagoguery."

<snip>

"I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but in 2016, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul will be my choice for president. On issues that affect the long-term survival of this country; grandiose concerns like perpetual war that could send generations of Americans fighting and dying in the Middle East, domestic spying that could eventually lead to a police state, and numerous other topics, Rand Paul has shown that he bucks both the Republican and Democratic penchant for succumbing to public opinion, an overreaction to the terror threat, and a gross indifference to an egregious assault on our rights as citizens."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/im-a-liberal-democrat-im_b_6169542.html


It then seems that Mr. H. A. Goodman had a major change of heart.


September 25, 2015, 07:30 am
"If the pope could endorse a candidate, he'd pick Bernie Sanders"

By H.A. Goodman, contributor

<snip>

"If he could, Pope Francis would endorse Bernie Sanders for president. I don't mean to speak on behalf of the world's most recognizable religious leader, but when you compare the political philosophy of both Sanders and Francis, theres only one conclusion: Sanders best fits his view of the world."

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/254897-if-the-pope-could-endorse-a-candidate-hed-pick



Response to GeorgiaPeanuts (Original post)

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
62. It was a thought experiment, maybe, a "what if"
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

Either that or it was a case of something else, like if he was lacking in integrity, and/or an ethical code for his journalism.

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