2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary lied again? OMG!
A video has been on cable news the past day or so in which Hillary Clinton says that of the thousands of guns used in crimes in New York,
the majority come from (Bernie Sander's) Vermont!
Lawrence O'Donnell (of MSNBC'S "Last Word" fact checked that statement tonight and found out, of all those thousands of guns used in crimes which were confiscated by police, 55 came from Vermont.
STOP THE PRESSES !!!
I'm sure Hillary will want to issue an immediate apology to Vermont,
and fire the staff person who gave her the false information.
(Uh, don't hold your breath)
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Like she's telling something horrible about Vermont?
Renew Deal
(81,900 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)That's generally the way it is when you mistrust someone who lies and deceives.
840high
(17,196 posts)Renew Deal
(81,900 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Beware of the boogey man from Vermont! Booooo!
Like reading scary stories to children.
jillan
(39,451 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Like somehow Vermont is trying to hurt New York?
Ugh.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)It is just her nature.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They must have had to add a separate wing on the mansion for them all.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Periodically, that overflows and theygo sliding across the kitchen, some falling into the sink and clogging up the garbage disposal which has been working overtime since before the turn of the millennium. A few end up in the fireplace which would almost make sense except that it's just decorative and the staff has to then clean it out. An unfortunate few fall down the cloths chutes and end up hopelessly tangled in mountains of underwear. Those wooden noses are almost at home there.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Of course the hundreds come in handy when they need something to light the fireplace.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Bill would never inhale them. He'd pretend to inhale.
jfern
(5,204 posts)That room couldn't be too cluttered before because every day she would come in and wipe her server with a cloth.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Sniper fire, did not have sex with that woman...they lie and so many want them to represent us all again in the WH. Yet so many more do not!
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)I have not seen that one.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)The grin on her face as she says the list with killers and domestic abusers is scary. Also watching her talk about per capita and no gun laws just makes a chill run down my back, I meed to capture this video and run it side by side with Cruz, I think she is starting to look more and more like our parties version of him.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)She should really look into narrating Aesop's fables on audio books. The kids would love the extra, breathless dramatic atmosphere her vocals would add.
Very talented in creating over the top theater. Two thumbs up
awake
(3,226 posts)1st Is Hillary talking about Bernie ? If so check if her lips are moving and if so there is a good chance she is lying.
Renew Deal
(81,900 posts)What she said and what you said she said don't match up.
http://nyti.ms/20wG2Ld
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Let alone the rest of the state
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)lol
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Lies, lies and more damn lies !
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,217 posts)Vermont population (2014): 626,532
VT Maple Syrup production (2013): 1,320,000 gallons
1,320,000 / 626,532 = 2.1068 gallons PER PERSON!!!
Canadian population (2004): 35,160,000
Canadian Maple Syrup production (2004): 7,000,000 gallons
7,000,000 gallons / 35,160,000 = ONLY 0.1991 gallons PER PERSON!!!
And what do we learn from this?
Jack shit nothing, except that statistics can be tortured until they scream for mercy.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)What she said was the highest number of guns used in crimes in NY, per capita, came from Vermont.
Well, duh. "Per capita" is the key, since there are only a few thousand people in Vermont, it doesn't take many guns to make that statement literally true.
But the whole sequence was fucking hilarious, all it lacked was the scarey music just before she said "Vermont".
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Not a very presidential thing to do, is it?
It's one thing to smear Sanders, it's another thing to smear his state. She just thinks anything and anybody is fair game to be used to further her ambitions.
karynnj
(59,511 posts)I think I know which one wins on everything important to quality of life. Just environmental issues would be enough for Vermont to win in a landslide.
PS This is not a smart game on her part. Consider that Vermont, the safest state in the union, has a pretty terrific image ... and she needs to change her favorables in a positive direction. Smearing Vermont could have the opposite effect.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She reminds me of Bush in that respect.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Sorry, can't embed image here.
So, I'll list the numbers here. This information comes from Bureau of Firearms, tobacco and explosives, office of strategic intelligence and information.
14 States that are in the gun pipeline to NY are:
California...........49.......39,144,818
Texas..............103.......27,469,114
Florida.............292.......20,271,272
Alabama............91.......4,858,979
Georgia............386.......10,214,860
S Carolina.........256.......4,896,146
Tennessee..........57.......6,600,299
N Carolina.........279.......10,042,802
Virginia.............395.......8,382,993
W Virginia...........66.......1,844,128
Ohio.................152.......11,613,423
Pennsylvania......371.......12,802,503
Connecticut.........59.......3,590,886
Vermont..............55.......626,042
She not only lied, but it was a whopper, because there is only one state with fewer guns coming from it to NY (Cali) recovered from crimes.
BTW, saying per capita means nothing. It's just a sneaky way of providing misinformation in a speech without actually lying (and she is superb at this), because nobody cares about per capita. If per capita had anything to do with it, California would have the highest number for guns recovered, and they have the lowest.
This is the way Hillary rolls. And people want her for President?
edited to add residents per state
vintx
(1,748 posts)Unbelievable that anyone supports her.