2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGravis Marketing: PENNSYLVANIA (Obama +3) Obama 49, Romney 46
Even Gravis doesn't have Romney tied with Obama in PA.
Looks like Susquehanna may be alone on that.
http://www.gravispolls.com/2012/11/final-pennsylvania-poll-results.html
Bucky
(54,094 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Actual lead is probably 6 points at least
Lord_Maculus
(53 posts)A fraudulent conservative polling outfit. They've been exposed by members of this site NUMEROUS times and if this is the best that they can show for Mitty in PA... well, then, I think that shows he's pretty much fucked there.
ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)and I have seen very little Obama/Biden signs all for Romney. I am panicking "big time"
Lord_Maculus
(53 posts)Your concern is noted.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)I live in Western PA too, it is all Repubs, they had plenty of corporate money to bring out signs, and where I live it is the same old Repub supports with the lawn signs-no one new. If you are concerned, it wouldn't hurt to contact a local office and do some phone banking.
erik satie
(81 posts)OBAMA IZ DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO000000MED!
PA is solid. How do I know? Have you heard one peep out of uber concern-troll Ed Rendell?
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)I thought today was the last day of campaigning?
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)We can't always add on extra points to Republican-leaning polls. Sometimes they are right. Other pollsters in PA like Morning Call show a +3 lead for Obama too.
PPP does show Obama +6 though.
We have to remember that Gore & Kerry only won PA by 2 or 3 points.
erik satie
(81 posts)and Romney's no Ronald Reagan or George Bush Sr. to carry Pennsylvania.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I just don't want PA hanging out there all night and people out west thinking Obama is having a hard time.
David Zephyr
(22,785 posts)at the last moment so they can continue their "business" of keeping Republican fat-cats donating to the GOP even when it's a lost cause.
Now Gallup, Gravis and Rasmussen are re-aligning their final numbers to those of every other real polling group in the nation.
So when will "RealClearPolitics" fess up? I doubt they will because their web audience would not like it and that would hurt their advertising income.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)smoke and mirrors to give Republican voters/donors hope.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)having no knowledge of PA, just buying a IVR and running polls does not help.
I think all Gravis data is cooked and they donot make any IVR calls.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)These people are dreaming.