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Gravis Marketing: PENNSYLVANIA (Obama +3) Obama 49, Romney 46 (Original Post) TroyD Nov 2012 OP
That's closer than it needs to be. Bucky Nov 2012 #1
It's a Gravis poll Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #2
It's a poll from GrabAss Marketing... NUFF SAID! Lord_Maculus Nov 2012 #7
I live in Western PA ebbie15644 Nov 2012 #3
Cool story, bro! Lord_Maculus Nov 2012 #8
Don't worry, they haven't put them out because they just get taken down anyway. wisteria Nov 2012 #12
Keep on panicking!!!!11!!! erik satie Nov 2012 #13
re: tibor75 Nov 2012 #4
Local news (KDKA Pittsburgh) just used those 2 polls as they hyped Romney's visit here tomorrow. AlinPA Nov 2012 #5
Romney is campaigning on Election Day? TroyD Nov 2012 #6
Yes. Pittsburgh and Cleveland. AlinPA Nov 2012 #10
Than Obama must be up by 6 than. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #9
Not necessarily TroyD Nov 2012 #11
And yet this election won't be as tight as either 2000 or 2004 erik satie Nov 2012 #14
That is a good point. Gore won by 5%, but Kerry did not do good at all. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #18
All of the right-wing pollsters are aligning their numbers to reality David Zephyr Nov 2012 #15
PA is not in play.... DCBob Nov 2012 #16
nonsense poll with people MyNameIsKhan Nov 2012 #17
6-8 will be the margin. MrSlayer Nov 2012 #19

Lord_Maculus

(53 posts)
7. It's a poll from GrabAss Marketing... NUFF SAID!
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:21 PM
Nov 2012

A fraudulent conservative polling outfit. They've been exposed by members of this site NUMEROUS times and if this is the best that they can show for Mitty in PA... well, then, I think that shows he's pretty much fucked there.

ebbie15644

(1,216 posts)
3. I live in Western PA
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:17 PM
Nov 2012

and I have seen very little Obama/Biden signs all for Romney. I am panicking "big time"

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
12. Don't worry, they haven't put them out because they just get taken down anyway.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:41 PM
Nov 2012

I live in Western PA too, it is all Repubs, they had plenty of corporate money to bring out signs, and where I live it is the same old Repub supports with the lawn signs-no one new. If you are concerned, it wouldn't hurt to contact a local office and do some phone banking.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. Not necessarily
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:24 PM
Nov 2012

We can't always add on extra points to Republican-leaning polls. Sometimes they are right. Other pollsters in PA like Morning Call show a +3 lead for Obama too.

PPP does show Obama +6 though.

We have to remember that Gore & Kerry only won PA by 2 or 3 points.

erik satie

(81 posts)
14. And yet this election won't be as tight as either 2000 or 2004
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:44 PM
Nov 2012

and Romney's no Ronald Reagan or George Bush Sr. to carry Pennsylvania.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
18. That is a good point. Gore won by 5%, but Kerry did not do good at all.
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

I just don't want PA hanging out there all night and people out west thinking Obama is having a hard time.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
15. All of the right-wing pollsters are aligning their numbers to reality
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 07:46 PM
Nov 2012

at the last moment so they can continue their "business" of keeping Republican fat-cats donating to the GOP even when it's a lost cause.

Now Gallup, Gravis and Rasmussen are re-aligning their final numbers to those of every other real polling group in the nation.

So when will "RealClearPolitics" fess up? I doubt they will because their web audience would not like it and that would hurt their advertising income.

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
17. nonsense poll with people
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 08:00 PM
Nov 2012

having no knowledge of PA, just buying a IVR and running polls does not help.

I think all Gravis data is cooked and they donot make any IVR calls.

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