2016 Postmortem
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Politico:At Hillary Clintons Brooklyn HQ, its as if theyve never heard of him.
The Clinton campaign is reading straight from the front-runners playbook when dealing with the socialist Vermont senator. Her staff insists its taking Sanders polling bump seriously while showing no signs of changing its long-charted course. There are no new plans to attack Sanders, no alterations of the forthcoming policy roll-outs that will dot the summer calendar, and no expected leftward sprints to match him policy-for-policy. She doesnt even mention his name on the campaign trail.
Instead, the former secretary of states political operation is making a show of its organizational muscle and safeguarding its position beyond the early-voting states. Far from sweating over reports of standing-room-only crowds at the Vermonters events, the Clinton campaign is breathing a quiet sigh of relief that its Sanders and not a potentially more viable primary opponent like Elizabeth Warren nipping at its heels this summer. The senators name pops up in conversations at Clintons Brooklyn headquarters, but hes not the topic of the day, week, or month not even in the candidates chats with donors, who are keeping a close tab on the state of play.
If the Clinton campaign isn't worried, neither am I.
I expect that Sanders will score a respectable 25-30% in the 2016 Primary, and will endorse Clinton at the end of the Primary schedule.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)but then, if HRC loses the GE, you will have nothing
left but to blame the Sander supporters. I don't know,
who else you could hold responsible, since the party
machine and the banks/corporations will all have
supported her,
It could never be that the wrong candidate was
supported to an incredible amount? Good luck
with that. "The times they are achanging".
brooklynite
(94,808 posts)I don't get emotionally linked to my candidates; I evaluate them critically, and if they're not up to par, I'll drop them (I dropped Clinton in 2008 after Super Tuesday). My goal isn't to sell my soul to a candidate, it's to find one who can win, because the Republican will be infinitely worse.
Bottom line, Bernie Sanders still doesn't exhibit an ability to win a national election, and none of his supporters have explained how he will.
Joe Turner
(930 posts)Hillary has the worst chance of all the candidates. She has long history of scandals that WILL be exploited by the republicans and she is just a flat out boring candidate that most people can't relate to. Folks outside the HRC camp can see this. Those on the inside cannot.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)You obviously must be new here.
*Anyone* but HRC will be blamed on DU if she loses the general.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Is foolhardy and a mistake.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Of course Clinton can pretend to be above the fray when she has dispatched her surrogates to all corners of the punditverse to trash Sen Sanders.
She doesn't have to fight her own battles, she can get McCaskill, Luis Gutierrez and Lanny Davis to fight them for her.
I have no doubt that she'll roll out Bill Clinton with a few snide little anti-Semitic jabs at Sanders, just like the racist stuff he tossed at Obama in 08.
Don't you understand - it isn't just Senator Sanders. People just plain do not like Hillary Clinton
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)...at her own peril. It will backfire on her miserably. So will the debates.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,748 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)I think there's an old adage about not counting your chickens before they are hatched that the Hillary campaign should keep in mind.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)would you expect them to say that they were?
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)"then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Feel the Bern 2016!!!!!
dmosh42
(2,217 posts)These politicians pretty much know what the people expect, but with all the payoffs from the corporations, they're more likely to look to cloud up the issues than be specific. But Bernie is quite direct in where the problems are originating from and what's needed to correct them. Nothing complex or fuzzy about his answers, and not covered over in bullshit! Feel the Bern!