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brooklynite

(94,808 posts)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:08 AM Jul 2015

Bernie who?

Politico:

Bernie Sanders is winning a third of the vote in Iowa and New Hampshire, according to the latest polls. Nearly 10,000 people showed up at his Wisconsin rally this week. Roughly 250,000 small donors have contributed to his campaign.

At Hillary Clinton’s Brooklyn HQ, it’s as if they’ve never heard of him.

The Clinton campaign is reading straight from the front-runner’s playbook when dealing with the socialist Vermont senator. Her staff insists it’s taking Sanders’ polling bump seriously while showing no signs of changing its long-charted course. There are no new plans to attack Sanders, no alterations of the forthcoming policy roll-outs that will dot the summer calendar, and no expected leftward sprints to match him policy-for-policy. She doesn’t even mention his name on the campaign trail.

Instead, the former secretary of state’s political operation is making a show of its organizational muscle and safeguarding its position beyond the early-voting states. Far from sweating over reports of standing-room-only crowds at the Vermonter’s events, the Clinton campaign is breathing a quiet sigh of relief that it’s Sanders — and not a potentially more viable primary opponent like Elizabeth Warren — nipping at its heels this summer. The senator’s name pops up in conversations at Clinton’s Brooklyn headquarters, but he’s not the topic of the day, week, or month — not even in the candidate’s chats with donors, who are keeping a close tab on the state of play.


If the Clinton campaign isn't worried, neither am I.

I expect that Sanders will score a respectable 25-30% in the 2016 Primary, and will endorse Clinton at the end of the Primary schedule.
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Bernie who? (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2015 OP
Keep trying. L0oniX Jul 2015 #1
"These are not the droids you are looking for." nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2015 #2
Oh, I think his percentages will be much higher, sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #3
Very simple: if HRC loses the GE, I'll blame her brooklynite Jul 2015 #4
In regards to winning the GE Joe Turner Jul 2015 #9
Welcome to DU.. Fumesucker Jul 2015 #10
This... Agschmid Jul 2015 #5
I have two words for you - Claire McCaskill tularetom Jul 2015 #6
She sends her surrogates to attack him from the right AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #16
... CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #7
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #8
I'm not worried, she'll get his name right when she calls to congratulate him on the nomination. Autumn Jul 2015 #11
Yep. Cleita Jul 2015 #12
Lets pretend for a moment that they are worried... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #13
That's just in the real world so it doesn't count. n/t Lil Missy Jul 2015 #14
another op to nowhere AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #15
"First they ignore you," PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #17
BINGO!!!! newfie11 Jul 2015 #18
And Bernie hasn't made HRC the target of his speeches, only focuses on specific issues.... dmosh42 Jul 2015 #19

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
3. Oh, I think his percentages will be much higher,
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:28 AM
Jul 2015

but then, if HRC loses the GE, you will have nothing
left but to blame the Sander supporters. I don't know,
who else you could hold responsible, since the party
machine and the banks/corporations will all have
supported her,

It could never be that the wrong candidate was
supported to an incredible amount? Good luck
with that. "The times they are achanging".

brooklynite

(94,808 posts)
4. Very simple: if HRC loses the GE, I'll blame her
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jul 2015

I don't get emotionally linked to my candidates; I evaluate them critically, and if they're not up to par, I'll drop them (I dropped Clinton in 2008 after Super Tuesday). My goal isn't to sell my soul to a candidate, it's to find one who can win, because the Republican will be infinitely worse.

Bottom line, Bernie Sanders still doesn't exhibit an ability to win a national election, and none of his supporters have explained how he will.

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
9. In regards to winning the GE
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:50 AM
Jul 2015

Hillary has the worst chance of all the candidates. She has long history of scandals that WILL be exploited by the republicans and she is just a flat out boring candidate that most people can't relate to. Folks outside the HRC camp can see this. Those on the inside cannot.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Welcome to DU..
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:54 AM
Jul 2015

You obviously must be new here.



*Anyone* but HRC will be blamed on DU if she loses the general.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
5. This...
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jul 2015
At Hillary Clinton’s Brooklyn HQ, it’s as if they’ve never heard of him.


Is foolhardy and a mistake.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. I have two words for you - Claire McCaskill
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:34 AM
Jul 2015

Of course Clinton can pretend to be above the fray when she has dispatched her surrogates to all corners of the punditverse to trash Sen Sanders.

She doesn't have to fight her own battles, she can get McCaskill, Luis Gutierrez and Lanny Davis to fight them for her.

I have no doubt that she'll roll out Bill Clinton with a few snide little anti-Semitic jabs at Sanders, just like the racist stuff he tossed at Obama in 08.

Don't you understand - it isn't just Senator Sanders. People just plain do not like Hillary Clinton

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
16. She sends her surrogates to attack him from the right
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 03:55 AM
Jul 2015

...at her own peril. It will backfire on her miserably. So will the debates.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Yep.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:08 AM
Jul 2015

I think there's an old adage about not counting your chickens before they are hatched that the Hillary campaign should keep in mind.

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
19. And Bernie hasn't made HRC the target of his speeches, only focuses on specific issues....
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:12 AM
Jul 2015

These politicians pretty much know what the people expect, but with all the payoffs from the corporations, they're more likely to look to cloud up the issues than be specific. But Bernie is quite direct in where the problems are originating from and what's needed to correct them. Nothing complex or fuzzy about his answers, and not covered over in bullshit! Feel the Bern!

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