Here's the Ticket: Biden and Warren
Posted: 08/17/2015
Many thoughtful progressives in the Democratic Party, myself included, are suffering from a feeling of helplessness these days. We believe the Party is headed for defeat under the banner of Hillary, whose poll numbers are already not looking good. We fear disaster but have not seen a better alternative.
While the Democrats should have something of a lock on the Presidency, given the nation's demographics, a campaign by Hillary will not be anything like a normal campaign. Instead of a campaign on issues and party credibility, it will be a campaign about Hillary. Hillary might very well lose that campaign. There is probably little she can do to improve her poll numbers because voters views about her were set a long time ago. Voters may turn to Hillary if the Republican candidate is a conservative extremist, but they are unlikely to change their views of her on the basis of some new campaign proposal. Her campaign will always be on the defensive, as we have seen in the latest controversy over the e-mail server. We live in fear of the next revelation about her or Bill, suspecting that there is plenty out there to reveal. Are we going to have to listen to her defending the flow of foreign money to the Foundation or the huge speaking fees coming from interested corporations? No one wants a campaign organized around such issues, but this is what a Hillary campaign will look like.
In response to these fears, many progressives are turning to Bernie Sanders--a surprise even to himself. Sanders shows the deep desire for reform present in the Democratic base. But no one can seriously believe that Sanders can win the national election. Well to the left of the mainstream of the party, he campaigned as an independent and described himself as a democratic socialist. Socialists have not been able to hold on to office in Scandinavia in recent years. The socialist recovery is not going to start in a country that still idolizes Ronald Reagan. Sanders is a great symbol, not a credible alternative.
O'Malley cannot break out even if Hillary falters because he carries too much of the weight of Baltimore. Webb is invisible. No wonder many progressives believe that the Democrats are throwing away the presidency, which would mean a Republican takeover of all of the branches of the national government and most of the states. Quite an achievement for a minority party.
This is the political situation that compels Joe Biden to run. He may not be a great candidate -- too old and too loquacious -- but he can win. Most important, he is well liked and even loved by many. His family is a source of support, while Hillary's is only a source of potential problems. He is a traditional Democrat, meaning that he represents the center left, which is where the votes in the swing states are. He speaks to the working class in a way that neither Hillary nor Sanders can match. Tactically, he can run on the promise of finishing the work of the Obama/Biden administration. There remains much to be done to secure universal health care, the economic recovery, reform of the criminal law and policing, as well as carbon reduction. Such a campaign positions him to profit greatly from Obama's support, which will be crucial for motivating minority groups upon which a Democratic victory must depend.
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But what will they do? 
--imm
She would run as a candidate herself and not second fiddle to Joe Biden. Is there some reason folks out there think she's not good enough to be at the top of the ticket?
All this is silly anyway. Biden is not going to run and Warren is not going to be his VP.....it's just more speculation by the 'Anyone but Hillary' club.
for Clinton or Biden, not to mention the 'other party.'
The younger generation is not as married to an "D" or and "R" as some older folks, they are more concerned about changing the status quo and the future.
Good for them ... and us 
by SHOWING non-lefties what discarding anything left of Franco has done to this country: not only would a Biden substitution clearly look like they're trying to block a movement bigger than the ever-shrinking party and not only would it be replacing Sanders TWICE (giving Warren the VP slot), but it wouldn't really be able to run the campaign Sanders would--it'd be neither reformist nor revolutionary, and we'd severely doubt Warren's pull to get the economic stuff done
it would be a bacon-saving move, to prove the hierarchy's ability to pick and choose and its power to coopt any challenges, and be seen as such; Sanders is running because we had a "Biden" before, and that was Biden's boss 2009-16! Obama doubled down on machine politics, saving the GOP's chestnuts, veal-penning anyone who wanted results, polishing his half-loaves, and frittering away his movement by turning them into OFA phone-bankers and gofers
Sanders doesn't want to keep the game going, while Biden and Warren would by accepting such a deal
(plus Biden voted for Iraq, for all the crowing that "Jeb forgot his brother created ISIS! stupid!"
