Odd that it's white males pulling the country to the left.

[sibelian]

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I'd always thought they were pulling the country to the right.

Who knew?

[HFRN]

1. yup, volvo driving, turtleneck wearing, wine sipping, granola munching, white supremacist

white males, are driving the country left

[Warren DeMontague]

7. or as I like to call them, "Ar-che Guevunker"

[beam me up scottie]

11. LMAO!

[Kurska]

18. +1 LOL EOM

[pablo_marmol]

22. TOO damn funny!! NT

[Jesus Malverde]

24. DUZY...nt

[Art_from_Ark]

27. Too funny!

[AgingAmerican]

28. You left out wealthy

nt

[Eleanors38]

44. Well, there's a reason for that.

[sibelian]

57. I was somewhat cold with you during our first encounter on this board.

I now rather regret this.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. You just broke my brain.

Congratulations!

[sibelian]

54. Well, there you are.

It IS a bit of a weird idea, I suppose.

[Cali_Democrat]

3. So who's rallying for Trump?

Minorities and women?



Trump had people shouting "white power" at his recent rally in Alabama.

[delrem]

38. Here's some

http://webesisters.com/

[Cali_Democrat]

40. What percentage of Trump supporters are African American?

Two people making videos on the Internet don't count as a scientific sample.

[delrem]

41. Well, I saw them first on the MSM. Some guy on CNN named "Lemon".

I don't have a TV, so I don't know how I click-baited my way to this excerpt from this show by CNN's "Lemon". MSM is creepy - always creepy - to me, and it all looks pretty much the same. And I'm a pensioner - and have never owned a TV in my life, so I'm an oddball. Probably how I so often get click-baited to shows by MSNBC's "Hardball".

Anyhow, you didn't demand "percentages of populations", you just asked "So who's rallying for Trump?" and I showed you one example.
Hope it didn't offend you.

[SonderWoman]

4. You might want to check Dem election demographics.

Then get back to us.

[Starry Messenger]

5. They aren't.

http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline

[Cali_Democrat]

8. Over 90% of Romney voters were white

I don't understand how people can make the claim that white people are pulling this country to the left.

If past elections have shown us anything, it's that whites lean more to the right than minorities and they vote for Republicans in greater numbers.

62% of white males voted Romney, yet it's white males who are pulling the country to the left?

The OP makes very little sense IMO.

[Starry Messenger]

9. I think he was trying to riff off the OP that said that Bernie was gaining in the RWM demographic

and somehow construed that as a harbinger of lefty-mcleftism for the whole country. That's one theory, anyway.

If it indicates anything, it probably really means some white guys above median income have finally broken off from the center and right and have drifted into realizing what the rest of us already deal with. I have other thoughts about that, but that's as far as I've gotten on verbalizing it.

[AgingAmerican]

30. The claim comes from Hillary supporters

Who claim Bernie's supporters are all white, male, rich and liberal. Oh, and they eat granola on yogurt in the mornings too.

See what pretzel logic gets ya?

[Cali_Democrat]

31. Bernie is getting 20-30% of the Dem vote....

And that's only in the Democratic primary. The white males that support his candidacy only make up a small portion of the overall white male vote.

Election results consistently show that white males are the most conservative voting bloc and they vote GOP.

The notion that they, as a whole, are pulling the country to the left is laughable to say the least.

[AgingAmerican]

32. So you agree with the OP then

nt

[Cali_Democrat]

33. Did you not read what I said?

The notion that they, as a whole, are pulling the country to the left is laughable to say the least.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

51. So you agree with the OP then.

[seabeyond]

34. sanders is reaching out to repugs, independents, libertarians and small group of dems. might as well

say the repugs and libertarian is pulling hte nation left.

it is all about their self interest, where they excel.

[Vattel]

35. How is he reaching out to repugs?

[beam me up scottie]

36. This should be good...

*bmus pulls up a chair and opens a beer*

[bettyellen]

45. When he adressed the fire fighters Union and said let's set aside our disagreements on abortion...,

As well as his plan to go speak at that RW fund or university. He has said time and time again he doesn't "do demographics" and is reaching out to all voters.

[Vattel]

46. cool, looking for the common ground

[bettyellen]

48. Not on women's reproductive rights though- on economics.

[beam me up scottie]

47. Hillary said the same thing to abortion opponents:

Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions

ALBANY, Jan. 24 - Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said on Monday that the opposing sides in the divisive debate over abortion should find "common ground" to prevent unwanted pregnancies and ultimately reduce abortions, which she called a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."

In a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters near the New York State Capitol, Mrs. Clinton firmly restated her support for the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion nationwide in 1973. But then she quickly shifted gears, offering warm words to opponents of legalized abortion and praising the influence of "religious and moral values" on delaying teenage girls from becoming sexually active.

"There is an opportunity for people of good faith to find common ground in this debate -- we should be able to agree that we want every child born in this country to be wanted, cherished and loved," Mrs. Clinton said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/25/nyregion/clinton-seeking-shared-ground-over-abortions.html?_r=0

[eridani]

49. More importantly, he's reaching out to the alienated 63%

The ones that Clinton doesn't stand a chance with.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. Dad was a white male, and he did this thing about "pull my finger".

Damn You, White Males!

[JI7]

10. they aren't. majority of them vote republican

And they are why republicans control congress

[Fumesucker]

12. "Sanders supporters are wealthier, whiter, and more male than Hillary supporters."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251542288

You see, all evil is the fault of white males.. If they aren't too far to the right then they are too far to the left, why can't they be sensible pragmatic moderate centrists like everyone else?

Enquiring minds want to know..

[JI7]

13. they aren't more left

[sibelian]

55. Well, I can't really see what ELSE we're supposed to think...

If there's more white males in the Sanders camp than the Hillary camp, then basically that can only mean they're more left-wing. Sanders is more left wing than Hills!

I have to say that I can't see anything of any particular significance about there being lots of white males in the Bernie Sanders camp, but there you go. Some people seem to think it's a Big Thing.

So. There you go.

[beam me up scottie]

14. What I want to know is how someone can get more male.

I always thought you were either a male or not a male.

I had no idea there were degrees of maleness.

The things I learn on DU.

[Chan790]

16. Gender, orientation and biological-sex are all more spectrum than dichotomy.

Just as you can be gay, homoflexible, bisexual, pansexual, heteroflexible, heterosexual or as many points along that spectrum between those points as there are stars in the sky...the same is true of gender-identity (a social construct) and even biological sex.

Not everybody is born a boy or a girl...there are also people born as boys that are really girls, girls that were born as boys, infants of no discernible biological sex at birth, people born with sex-traits of both males and females and even people who are identified at birth as one biological sex before developing biological traits of the other at puberty. That's not even getting into chimeric genetics that rarely results in females born with XY chromosomes and vice-versa or people with XXY or XYY chromosomes.

Intersex people exist and are distinct from people who are trans-sex.

[beam me up scottie]

17. Thanks for the information but I was referring to an op about supporters being "whiter and more male

Trying to make a funny, didn't mean to sound insensitive.

[Chan790]

19. Oh, I know.

I didn't think you came off as insensitive. I just feel i can never pass up a teaching opportunity on the wonderful diversity that is personal identity. There are people who really, really don't know this stuff.

[beam me up scottie]

20. You did good.

My friends and I recently discussed what it was like for folks who were different before the internet.

Now they can find support groups and lots of wonderful people like you who are getting the word out.

[John Poet]

25. REAL Men Support Bernie Sanders!

That should make it more clear.

[beam me up scottie]

26. Lol!

The irony of a white male complaining about the privilege of other white males was lost on the author of that op.

[BuelahWitch]

39. Funny, you'd think the wealthier people

would want to maintain the status quo. Which means Hillary.
I am a Bernie supporter, not wealthy (per the last time I looked at my bank account) and not male (I took a shower this morning. I don't think anything has changed since then). I am white, a proud liberal Democrat. I think those of us who are of a more liberal bent go for more liberal candidates regardless of our race, sex or anything else. I suppose there are those people who vote with their genitalia, but wouldn't it be difficult to mark your ballot that way?

[Fumesucker]

53. Where do you think the term "hanging Chad" came from?

[Puzzledtraveller]

15. Lol, odd indeed.

[Eleanors38]

21. Unpossible. That requires a DiversityAgenda!!

[pablo_marmol]

23. Exactly! Everything is black and white! ;-)

[seabeyond]

29. self interest. working and middle class. that is the campaign outreach. it is not about pulling

left but self interest.

[ancianita]

37. Conscious white males have the power to do this, and I'm glad they're out there. This country's

"isms" are not easy for a conscious white male since they get tainted by them. Most of them feel pressed to hide in plain sight, but now the political context gives them good reasons to make their stances known, thank heaven.

[Recursion]

42. Their voices are amplified

That's why they can dominate both parties (though they dominate ours somewhat less).

[delrem]

43. What's with all these racist posts on DU?

Why has this kind of racial opining become so popular in the '16 Dem primaries?

I don't like it, whatever the motivation.

[sibelian]

56. Annoying, isn't it?

Actualy, I'll put a sarcasm tag.

[Blue_Tires]

50. Is there some unspoken context that I'm missing here?

[sibelian]

58. People think the racial profile of a candidate's supporters is significant and I don't?

Lots of threads talking about Bernie Sanders supporters being white and male...

[valerief]

52. Females are already there. nt