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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:09 PM Aug 2015

There is one major issue for me that is a DQ for Biden and the party nomination

The bankruptcy bill in 2005.

Biden not only supported this bill (that's bad enough), but affirmatively led efforts to get it passed. Credit card companies have a lot of clout in Delaware. The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 made it harder for persons to file under Chapter 7, forcing them into the more onerous Chapter 13. Student loans from private lenders were made non-dischargeable.

Obama and Sanders voted no. Clinton missed the vote because Bill was in the hospital, but she said she would have voted no.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll108.xml

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/clinton-and-the-bankruptcy-law/

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There is one major issue for me that is a DQ for Biden and the party nomination (Original Post) bluestateguy Aug 2015 OP
That and his deliberate public humiliation of Anita Hill. DURHAM D Aug 2015 #1
I'd forgotten about that JackInGreen Aug 2015 #3
2 other issues comes to mind. short circuit Aug 2015 #2
+1 beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #6
yep. the RAVE act and he has no filter. nt m-lekktor Aug 2015 #8
His son Hunter is on a Ukrainian Gas Company Board. Dunno how much that will play in. And... glinda Aug 2015 #9
I have the same major issue. That told me all I ever need to know CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #4
2005 Bankruptcy bill and the RAVE Act are Joe's signature pieces of legislation. Romulox Aug 2015 #5
like Senator Clinton, Vice President Biden is unfit for office... mike_c Aug 2015 #7
decades of worsening impacts reddread Aug 2015 #11
Would he be likely to ever do anything moondust Aug 2015 #10

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
1. That and his deliberate public humiliation of Anita Hill.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:14 PM
Aug 2015

She has more integrity in her little finger than Biden has in his entire body x 100.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
4. I have the same major issue. That told me all I ever need to know
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:19 PM
Aug 2015

about Joe Biden.

As for Hillary Clinton, given her yes vote on the Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2001, I'm not sure I believe her when she says she would have voted against it.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
5. 2005 Bankruptcy bill and the RAVE Act are Joe's signature pieces of legislation.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:25 PM
Aug 2015
Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act

RAVE Act

The Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act, commonly known as the RAVE Act, was a bill proposed in the United States Senate during the 107th Congress. A substantially similar law, the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act was passed during the 108th Congress on April 30, 2003.

The bill was sponsored by Senator Joseph Biden, along with cosponsors Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch, Joseph Lieberman, Strom Thurmond, Patrick Leahy and Richard Durbin.[1] The bill was referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary on June 18, 2002. June 27, 2002 it was reported out of the committee without written comment or amendment and placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar. On October 10, 2002, Senator Biden provided introductory remarks on the bill before the Senate.

This bill was introduced to the Senate again on January 7, 2003 by Senator Thomas Daschle[SD] with co-sponsors; Senator Joseph Biden Jr. [D-DE], Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton [D-NY,] Senator Jon Corzine [D-NJ], Senator Mark Dayton [D-MN] Senator Richard Durbin [D-IL], Senator Edward Kennedy [D-MA], Senator Patrick Leahy [D-VT], Senator Patty Murray [D-WA], Senator Jack Reed [D-RI], Senator Charles Schumer [D-NY]. This bill also failed to pass. [1]

On Thursday (April 10, 2003) the Senate and House passed [2] the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act (formerly known as the RAVE Act) as an attachment to the child abduction-related AMBER Alert Bill. The language of the original act was changed slightly before the bill was passed without public hearing, debate or a vote.[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reducing_Americans%27_Vulnerability_to_Ecstasy_Act

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
7. like Senator Clinton, Vice President Biden is unfit for office...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

...because of his support for crimes against humanity (H.J. Res 114, the Authorization to Use Military Force against Iraq). No one who voted in support of a war of aggression is fit for holding high government office in the U.S., IMO, because they do not understand the moral position the U.S. adopted after Nuremberg, or at least cannot constrain their foreign policy accordingly. I agree with the OP comment about changes to the personal bankruptcy law as well, but crimes against humanity are a whole different level of hubris. I will never vote for anyone who voted to invade Iraq. And most especially not for anyone who voted to invade Iraq but who subsequently engaged in intellectual yoga to convince people that they shouldn't have to own that vote.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
11. decades of worsening impacts
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:51 PM
Aug 2015

Iraq deserves massive reparations.
from Halliburton at the very least.

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